Trans women

[Jamiem80]

Probably going to get shot down massively here but a simple question clearly there is a lot of hate for men wanting to be women, but nothing about women becoming men. Do you also frown upon this or is it ok and for what reason?

Huffsoy...a poster on a mission - a mission to prove that transactivism is a men's rights movement. As we've all said all along.

Is it wrong of me to get a little frisson of warm joy every time we get a flouncer?

I just honestly laughed out loud. It's just as well I don't believe in heaven since I'd never get there.

But yes.

Absolutely no insight at all into own behaviour. Always a perfect demonstration of exactly the concerns women have. They do an exact QED for us and have no idea whatsover that is what they've done.

@ToeToToe
Ok Paul if you say so

LOL! nasty skanks! Deary me, we're in full-on narcissistic rage now, aren't we?

We haven't had a flouncer unflounce for a while. I've got a load of bedding on the line, will our flouncer finally flounce before or after it dries? Bets...

OOOOOOOOOO I've never been called a skank before.

Let's hope your fears come true to every last one of you nasty skanks

Now really this needs punctuation or it’s a ‘Sigh No More Ladies’ job.

Will would be rolling in his grave.

Just gonna put another

Wow!!

Blimey, this is quite the narcissistic meltdown, isn't it? It would be pretty terrifying to be in the same room with in RL, but online, it's actually extremely amusing to watch.

Nasty skanks, feminists are evil, genetic women deserve to be taken less seriously and paid less than men (BTW, I thought we weren't allowed to use phrases like "genetic women" because that was... transphobic), hormonal women on the rag, "you trolling witches did this" (ah yes, the abuser's cry through the ages - she made me do this by saying no). It's like a mad scientist's AI misogynist program run amok. You couldn't make it up.

Crikey, we are being told time and time again that we need to have robust debate to avoid being an echo chamber of hate. I'm glad the likes of huffsoy come along to give us a masterclass in reasoned debate.

Let's hope your fears come true to every last one of you nasty skanks
Whilst I appreciate that sometimes its a good idea to let comments like this stand- enough is enough - being called a transphobes and bigots is rage inducing but his is beyond the pale imo. I have reported.

I've dealt with many toddler tantrums in my time, but I don't think I've ever seen such a full-on narcissistic tantrum as Huffsoy on this thread - I know some people can't handle being told NO - but this takes the

It's hilarious

I’d vote for let the posts stand but ban the poster. If MN was a democracy, which it’s not, but there’s my 2p anyway.

What is huffsoy actually huffing about anyway? That they were corrected on their assertions that transmen on long-term hormone therapy are ‘just as bad’ as men? Or have I missed some background on other threads.

S'alright. Have screenshotted. Let him huff away

Whilst you’re still here huffsoy - do you know what ‘bigot’ means? It means intolerant towards those holding different opinions. Like what you’re doing right now.

I’d vote for let the posts stand but ban the poster. If MN was a democracy, which it’s not
agreed Cwenthryth

Awww, this thread is taking me back to when my kids were toddlers and threw tantrums when told no. feeling all sentimental now

Let them stand. Nothing shows the argument better than a man screaming abuse at women who disagree with him.

cwen

No i think thats pretty much it

I think they only arrived today and so their patience is less than mine...and thats saying something

I don't get fuzzy "remember my toddler" feels. When a toddler tantrums, they're a tiny child with very underdeveloped frontal lobes, no theory of mind and other people - they literally can't help it. They're usually also loving little children the rest of the time.

When an adult tantrums they are giving you a terrifying insight into the mind of someone who chooses not to control their impulses, and who hates large portions of the rest of the world, and often indicates that they'd be prepared to follow up that tantrum with actual physical violence.

Like I say, this is hilarious to watch on line - but I'd be pretty scared if I encountered someone like this in RL.

Hello huffsoy. Taking your little rant at face value (whilst biting the inside of my cheek trying not to laugh) can I point out -

Women are not safe from men, not even trans women (who are male, I'll not call them men out of respect). Some women may be nervous of trans women, if they are nervous around males. It's not personal, nor is it a crime, to be wary in the presence of a stranger.

You can change gender every hour on the hour if you fancy, I don't care. Gender is a social construct and a reflection of personality. Can't change sex though, not biologically.

Do you have any kids? Who is punishing them? Doubt very much it's feminists.

One of my best friends has a (FTM) trans son. I went to his wedding with his (MTF) trans wife last year. It was a fab day and they are a lovely couple. One of my good friends is a trans woman - she is one of the most sensible people I can discuss the current issues with TRAs with as she (mostly) agrees. She likes to be seen and accepted as a woman but is aware she's male. Her life has become more difficult in the last year or so, as she feels that strangers are more aware and less accepting of her than they used to be. I hate this, but I didn't cause it. My trans friends know I am gender-critical btw. None of them seem to have an issue with it, I've never been called a bigot or a transphobe by anyone in real life. Oddly I have by people online, go figure.

I'm menopausal, will never be on the rag again thankfully. I am a bit skanky though, haven't cleaned under the fridge for months.

Only one person here spewing bile and hate here, and it doesn't seem to be a regular poster.

You have a nice day now, it sounds like you need one

I vote to let Huff's comments stand - but if they are reported they will be deleted - they are a clear breach of guidelines.

So get screenshots first.

Let them stand. Nothing shows the argument better than a man screaming abuse at women who disagree with him
Yeah I guess so. Its just awful seeing these things written down. Perhaps I'm being too sensitive