Trans women

[Jamiem80]

Probably going to get shot down massively here but a simple question clearly there is a lot of hate for men wanting to be women, but nothing about women becoming men. Do you also frown upon this or is it ok and for what reason?

Trans women are not males

Oh supermatch...I’ve asked before and I’ll ask again can humans change sex?

I see people saying thay there's no danger of woman who become men and no disadvantage, woman who transition take testosterone and gain strength and muscles of a man and can get just as violent and aggressive as a man because that what hormones can do.

I see a lot of ignorance when discussing either mtf or ftm gender issues without people knowing all the facts.

If you want to know the facts do research it's simple this day and age with the vast access to medical information online and through medical professionals and medical websites

What specific facts are you talking about other than the issue you mention? Most people have researched this.

What's your definition of male and man @SupermatchGame?

woman who transition take testosterone and gain strength and muscles of a man and can get just as violent and aggressive as a man because that what hormones can do.

Ah, I see the male domination is still alive and well in the trans 'community' there Huff.

You hate females. We get it.
Shame you want to be one, isn't it?

TL;DR - stop shitting on TIFs, it will bring you no favour here.

woman who transition take testosterone and gain strength and muscles of a man and can get just as violent and aggressive as a man because that what hormones can do.

No - you can gain far more muscle mass that you can without taking the (really really bad for you) cocktails of anabolic steroids and hormones but you can’t ever reach what is considered a male physique. The male skeleton, length of levers, physical attachment points of muscles etc etc are missing.

You also increase aggression but not to Male levels. Overall, the sexes retain the criminal offending patterns of their sex.

f you want to know the facts do research it's simple this day and age with the vast access to medical information online and through medical professionals and medical websites

I’ve been a scientist for 22 years now, so I’m well aware of the research and ‘the facts.’

I also wouldnt believe all you read on the web. And you may not have the background to critically appraise what you read.

BINGO I win, what's the prize? Women don't bow down to huffsoy so Huff huffs and flounces with a load of insults in their wake. How very predictable.

At least I'm not transphobic like you

Nobody report that post by Huffsoy.

Let it stand - these are the Transactivists in their own words. They are abusive and threatening to women.

So instead of debating with hormonal woman who are on the rag I am going to campaign against mums net so it hurts their pocket. You trolling witches did this, because this is how you welcome new members.

Is it wrong of me to get a little frisson of warm joy every time we get a flouncer?

Every time. Six, seven posts on average I’d say, the mask slips.... et voila! This one is particularly good with the references to being on the rag and hormonal. I may just pop the cauldron on if anyone fancies a cup of tea?

Standards of debate are low with this one.

Probably going to get shot down massively here but a simple question clearly there is a lot of hate for men wanting to be women, but nothing about women becoming men. Do you also frown upon this or is it ok and for what reason?

I'd say the question itself is wrong for me. I don't frown upon men who choose to live as a woman. That's their choice (so long as they're adults). So equally, I don't have a problem with women who choose to live as a man (for whatever that means).

The things I'd say we nearly all object to here, are the impositions upon others and the harm done to children. For the former, that's mainly the autogynephile set which by definition are men. For the harm to children, I think you'll find we condemn that regardless of sex. Indeed, I've pointed out myself on a few occasions that young women are suffering in even greater numbers than young boys. (Referrals for young girls are nearly 11 times higher than for boys. Mainly due, I believe, to women having tighter gender roles and being more affected by social pressure).

huffsoy One day you'll come up against a real transphobe...

[huffsoy Mon 21-May-18 13:33:51
You know what I am fed up of being trolled and talked down to by some bigots

Maybe you are a scientist but you are not a endocrinologyst who knows how male hormones in woman can effect them.

Most ftm take hormones grow beards and get muscles and can do as much harm as any man.

So instead of debating with hormonal woman who are on the rag I am going to campaign against mums net so it hurts their pocket.

You trolling witches did this, because this is how you welcome new members.

Pathetic]

Have people got screenshots of this?

Yes, Bowlof - no matter how oh-so-reasonable the conversation starts out, it ends up like that - with threats and abuse. It's text book.

Have people got screenshots of this? Yep.

It's not a threat it's a promise to go after your advertising so you won't have a forum because all you lot have done is troll me since I got here.

It's not a threat it's a promise to go after your advertising so you won't have a forum because all you lot have done is troll me since I got here.

That’s been tried. Knock yourself out. MN has about 12 million unique users with a high proportion in the sort of ‘middle class with a fair amount of spare cash to spend’ category. Women account for roughly 70% of all household spending including groceries, household goods and also things like cars, insurance and holidays. Advertisers know which side their bread is buttered. We drive their revenue. You don’t.

The threats, the hyperbolic language and the lack of self control are all very telling. This is what male abusers do. They don’t like it when women say no to them.

But this proves to me that genetic woman deserve being not taken serious by men and get paid less than men

You do realise this is admitted misogyny don't you?

Wow!!

Thats all, just wow!!

huffsoy If it wasn't for feminists you would be using the men's toilets. Grow up!

Oh but woman are not safe from trans woman, oh the outrage, oh you can't change gender, our kids are being punished for calling them he.

Kind if things a transphobic spew out and this is what's being plastered all over the forum by bigots and transphobes