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Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?

438 replies

TrumpTrump · 09/05/2018 22:21

If you're not familiar with this supposed physician (yes, really), then you need to get over to Twitter and see this.

Harrop seems to spend most of his time harassing and insulting natal women whilst unquestionably supporting trans women. He is hiding behind his "medical expertise" and using it to shout women down.

It's both hilarious and terrifying! Shock

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AncientLights · 10/05/2018 09:48

I know Harrop has posted that a man reported him to the GMC, the sex of the person seemed to surprise him - all boys in this together maybe? - but there's nothing to stop other people reporting him. It should be easy to get the standards drs are expected to uphold and measure him up against them. Then report him. My next project, I think. Don't think I am encouraging anyone to start a campaign against him though - perish the thought.

terryleather · 10/05/2018 09:55

He appears to be inviting people to complain about him to the GMC from what he's posted on Twitter...a freakin ego that can be seen from space, what an utter fudd he is.

LangCleg · 10/05/2018 10:07

Vile man.

I don't like it when TRAs doxx and report to employers, so I'm not keen when "our" side does it either - slippery slope and where do you draw the line? He seems to be in a training hiatus at the moment in any case - not yet fully qualified but not employed working towards qualification?

That said, if he got professional sanctions for his behaviour on social media, I wouldn't have any sympathy at all.

nauticant · 10/05/2018 10:16

Although this is about as far from doxxing as one could imagine.

Even involving the GMC is fair game since Harrop is using his status as a doctor to push forward a contentious political position. (As well as apparently endorsing a death threat that was made to a woman.)

ProfessionalBarren · 10/05/2018 10:18

I also find the way he uses overly convoluted language to express his points when he thinks he's dealing with Joe Public really fucking offensive. Longs words do not equal critical thinking and just because we don't agree with you doesn't make us thick. Do you think he speaks to his patients like that? I haven't disliked someone on SM this much for a long time.

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2018 10:31

Oh, and I think I lectured him when he was an undergrad. facepalm He certainly didn’t get his mixed up views of biological sex from me.

megletthesecond · 10/05/2018 10:34

He's nasty, along with Jensen. They rounded on that poor woman on twitter who spoke out about how hard parenting is.

R0wantrees · 10/05/2018 10:37

link to thread with Dr Helen Webberley (GenderGP)'s article which mentions her discussions with Dr Harrop.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3243516-Dr-Helen-Webberley-GenderGP-Interview-in-The-Independent-re-GenderQuake-Debate

AncientLights · 10/05/2018 10:48

I do think there is a big difference between doxing a private individual and someone who parades their professional status in no prof-related matters, posting pics if themselves in scrubs with the obligatory stethoscope around the neck. While possibly violating their professional code. If they are reported & exonerated, no harm done surely?

MoltenLasagne · 10/05/2018 11:07

Dr Harrop thinks that paedophilia is ok if it's a cultural norm for grown men to marry children.

I suggest that Dr Harrop looks into the maternal mortality rate for those child brides who end up dying in labour when they're raped by husbands more than twice their age. Or the girls who are left with fistulas from labour injuries who then get abandoned in huts because they bring shame to the family.

I wonder whether it's pure sexism or also racism which causes Dr Harrop to think that it's a question of moral subjectivity for young African girls to be subject to such a life?

Thanksforthatamazingpost · 10/05/2018 11:13

Questions re Adrian:

  1. why are his bosses allowing this and has anyone complained?
2 if he's just a trainee why is he misrepresenting himself as fully qualified to advise?
  1. What "valuable lesson" does he want Olivia to learn?
  2. Why isn't he at work?
  3. Has anyone recommended that he read "Men Explain Things to Me".
Adrianexplainsthingstome · 10/05/2018 11:20

Oh Adrian,

You thought when you did that medical degree that women wouldn't be allowed to laugh at you ever again.

You thought we'd mistake you for someone clever.

But we're laughing at you.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/05/2018 11:28

Thanks, I agree with 1, 3, 4 and 5, but anyone with a medical degree is qualified to practise medicine. After getting their degree most doctors in the UK do two years as Foundation doctors, rotating through different specialisms as they start to think what they want to specialise in, then three years on a specialist training scheme (what used to be called SHOs) followed by a final three years of further specialist training (used to be called registrar level). At the end of that if all has gone smoothly they will be consultants if they are going to be hospital doctors. GP training is similar but out in the community. Some people take time out along the way to do locum jobs, research, teaching, travelling, maternity leave and so on.

I don't know where the vile Dr H is in the process but he's definitely qualified to practise medicine. A brilliant registrar delivered my daughter by emergency CS, so I feel a bit invested in the status of registrars!

R0wantrees · 10/05/2018 11:30

Dr Harrop's response to those suggesting professional conflict issues.

Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/05/2018 11:31

I liked the response from someone who pointed out what a misogynistic word 'coven' is.

MaidOfStars · 10/05/2018 11:32

Pretty sure our hospital trust bans staff going to Subway in scrubs, because it looks unprofessional. God knows what they’d make of this.

Adrianexplainsthingstome · 10/05/2018 11:36

"A brilliant registrar delivered my daughter by emergency CS, so I feel a bit invested in the status of registrars!"
Ah, lovely Flowers

I confess I have never got to grips with the medical hierarchy system.... I think sometimes as a patient it's better that way as it's easier to tell a specialist that actually you agree with your GP/physio, whatever....

Presumably then a medical degree involves all the getting of on-the-job experience type of stuff, not just academic stuff?
I had vaguely assumed it was like law where there is a four year stint of academic stuff (leaving you totally unqualified to help anyone) then two years' training.

Adrianexplainsthingstome · 10/05/2018 11:37

Ah Adrian,

I trust that the reaction from your bosses to your use of the word "coven" will help you learn a valuable lesson.

I hadn't dared to hope you'd be learning it so soon......

ProfessionalBarren · 10/05/2018 11:39

Anita Sharma and Nimco Ali are giving him a much needed lesson on Twitter. It's joyous.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/05/2018 11:42

Yes, a medical degree involves lots and lots of placements and clinical skills training. That's why it takes so long to qualify - usually five years.

ItrustAdrianlearnshislesson · 10/05/2018 11:42

oh goody.

"I trust" is so very very amateur and "am I important enough yet"? I never let a trainee use that kind of language.

Aren't doctors trained not to talk like twits? I thought they were trained to be very direct and just say "I think X. I don't think Y". ("I don't think you've got a serious condition. I think you're anxious. I don't think we should refer you yet").

ItrustAdrianlearnshislesson · 10/05/2018 11:44

Thanks Gaspode!

Presumably they are quite heavily supervised at the five year point though?

ProfessionalBarren · 10/05/2018 11:51

Link to Anita Sharma's take on the good Drs (him and Christian J): mobile.twitter.com/NimkoAli/status/994468104238485504

ProfessionalBarren · 10/05/2018 11:52

And Nimco Ali's tweet to the GMC of course.

ItrustAdrianlearnshislesson · 10/05/2018 11:55

I've just read his other tweet about paedophilia.

I suspect his five year degree didn't cover any of the "ologies" he's describing here.

The mutual congratulations between him and Christian is quite funny.

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