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Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?

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TrumpTrump · 09/05/2018 22:21

If you're not familiar with this supposed physician (yes, really), then you need to get over to Twitter and see this.

Harrop seems to spend most of his time harassing and insulting natal women whilst unquestionably supporting trans women. He is hiding behind his "medical expertise" and using it to shout women down.

It's both hilarious and terrifying! Shock

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TrumpTrump · 09/05/2018 23:10

Interestingly, the replies to his tweets are all negative. He doesn't seem to have many supporters? Unless I'm blocked from seeing them?

Some of the replies are quite funny. He is getting his arse handed to him nicely.

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 09/05/2018 23:10

Yes here it is Lang

Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?
Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?
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MonsoonMama · 09/05/2018 23:14

Jeez, just looked him up on Twitter - and now I'm fucking terrified

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reallybadidea · 09/05/2018 23:24

So when that 12 year old discloses to him, as her doctor, that she's being taken to Niger to marry an older man he's not going to impose any moral or cultural expectations on the situation then? He wouldn't see this as a safeguarding issue in contravention of government guidelines. Interesting.

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Treesybreezy · 09/05/2018 23:26

Thanks busyboysmum. At least I'm not going mad.

So probably thinks of women (subconsciously or not) as breeders rather than full human beings.

Both of them examples of why the medic students at my university were routinely sneered at by every other department.

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SeaWitchly · 09/05/2018 23:43

He is right twat isn't he.

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DJLippy · 09/05/2018 23:44

he's not likeable, charming, or articulate.

People can see this. Let him dig his own grave.

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gendercritter · 09/05/2018 23:49

Ah see I knew Dr Christian had tweeted something like that and couldn't remember the exact tweet. Horrific.

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niska · 09/05/2018 23:52

@thebewilderness, any chance you could post any links, or leads, about male doctors taking out their misogyny on women? I think it's an interesting subject, though obviously terrifying. Any books you'd recommend? I'd be massively grateful.

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ToeToToe · 10/05/2018 00:07

He's trying to get Olivia expelled from the Green Party now (she's a candidate).

He's a member of the Labour Party.

Green Party have told him that Olivia is "being investigated" - Olivia has had no contact from the Green Party as yet. They're speaking to a man from a different political party - yet haven't contacted their own party member yet.

Let's be clear - Olivia was an audience member who heckled a person taking part in a debate on Channel 4. That's all.

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Juzza12 · 10/05/2018 00:17

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thebewilderness · 10/05/2018 00:20

There are so many cases like the most recent sexual abuser Larry Nassar that a google search will horrify you. Reminding us that predators go where the prey is.

www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/12/06/hardy/JRGIHaUfcFQmwc0uLS5dkN/story.html

interactives.indystar.com/news/standing/OutofBalance/NassarTimeline/LSJ.html

www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a19642000/sexual-assault-by-doctors/

Marcel Andre Henri Felix Petitot was a French serial killer who conducted his criminal activity during the first and second World Wars.

Michael Swango is a former medical doctor, former U.S. Marine recruit and a prolific serial killer with more than 60 deaths attributed to him. As with almost all the other doctors on our list, Dr. Swango’s career as a serial killer goes hand in hand with his clinical practice.

Herman Webster Mudgett (a.k.a. Dr. Henry Howard Holmes) was a graduate of Michigan Medical School and one of the first recorded American serial killers. But while most serial killers lurk in dark corners, Holmes went as far as opening a hotel which he had designed and built with murder in mind.

Harold Frederick Shipman was a British doctor, and one of the most prolific serial killers in recorded history. He is judged responsible for more than 250 deaths.

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thebewilderness · 10/05/2018 00:21

Sorry the links are for @niska

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 10/05/2018 08:06

I can't help feeling that he is a confidence trickster paid by a sub company of Cambridge Analytica.

The timing - he popped along just when everyone started focusing on biology and reality was gaining traction in the discourse. Then this "medic" comes from no-where talking ridiculous bollocks with the specific intention of winding up feminists who are winning the biology argument.

I can't take him seriously because nothing he says would be said by someone at the beginning of their medical career.

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 10/05/2018 08:08

I also think Pink News is a front.

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GenderApostate · 10/05/2018 08:26

He works in Scarborough a+e dept. apparently. He seeks out the limelight like a typical pathological narcissist, under the guise of caring ever so deeply about patients. I feel sorry for any woman who comes under his ‘care’ at Scarborough, hero/saviour complex comes to mind.

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niska · 10/05/2018 08:48

Thanks so much for those links, thebewilderness. My interest/research is partly because I was raped by an HCP as a teenager.

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AncientLights · 10/05/2018 08:55

I had once liked him because he was one of the junior doctors who were speaking out against NHS cuts and he recounted the appalling effects he was seeing daily as an A&E doctor. But now I view even that through the prism of 'twat seeking celebrity & doesn't care how he gets it.'

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R0wantrees · 10/05/2018 08:55

@niska, also worth reading KateMiddleton1965's comments towards the end of the thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3210319-To-any-trans-activists-reading-this-forum?pg=7

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MaidOfStars · 10/05/2018 08:55

He’s an idiot. And if he’s reading this:

I highly suspect that you are breaking GMC and RCGP social media guidelines by posting such extreme politics on your professional profile. I suggest you make a new account.

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NonSuchFun · 10/05/2018 09:25

Hi - I’m new here but have been educating myself from a distance thanks to Mumsnet, and just have to dive in here as my blood boils every time this unpleasant man pops up in my timeline on twitter.
Apologies for making my first post such a long one.

I find this “trans women are women” Dr deeply concerning as I think the ability to distinguish between men and women is a fairly basic level of knowledge that most all women expect from a Dr.
I think women also expect to be treated with respect, so it is very concerning to find a new breed of younger Dr’s fully paid up to patriarchal paternalistic “I trust you will learn a valuable lesson from this Olivia” attitudes.

I do wonder where he is working at present - in January he was popping up on TV news giving (not unjustified) dire statements and warnings about the winter crisis in the NHS. (Plenty of clips on google). He worked at Scarborough A&E then, but they have confirmed he is no longer working for them. I wonder if he has rotated to another job, as GP trainees do or if Scarborough were less than happy with his media activities. NHS trusts do not look kindly upon this sort of behaviour. Which makes me wonder about his future employment prospects.

I also note, from google, that he has set up a private Dr Adrian Harrop Ltd company. For what I wonder? Heaven forbid this labour activist is moving into private practice? Or maybe he can’t get another job in the NHS and is reduced to doing agency work paid through his personal contracting company? Or preparing for that longed for media career.

I would fully expect to be warned and disciplined by my employer if I behaved as he does on twitter, and I am surprised that the GMC seems to have a very liberal attitude to Drs on twitter as he isn’t the only one unafraid to besmirch his profession out there.

Here is a section on Professionalism and Trust from the NMC Nurses and Midwives code of Practice (available on line):

20 Uphold the reputation of your profession at all times
To achieve this, you must:
20.2 act with honesty and integrity at all times, treating people fairly and without discrimination, bullying or harassment
20.3 be aware at all times of how your behaviour can affect and influence the behaviour of other people
20.5 treat people in a way that does not take advantage of their vulnerability or cause them upset or distress
20.7 make sure you do not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious or moral beliefs) to people in an inappropriate way
20.10 use all forms of spoken, written and digital communication (including social media and networking sites) responsibly, respecting the right to privacy of others at all times.
For more guidance on using social media and networking sites, please visit: //www.nmc.org.uk/guidance
21 Uphold your position as a registered nurse or midwife
To achieve this, you must:
21.5 never use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health, and
21.6 cooperate with the media only when it is appropriate to do so, and then always protecting the confidentiality and dignity of people receiving treatment or care.
In short I don’t think nurses or midwives (who are mostly female) would get away with this sort of behaviour and I’m surprised it seems to be acceptable for Doctors.

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TrumpTrump · 10/05/2018 09:26

What annoys me more is the class issue at play here. If he was a working class "chav" spouting this kind of misogyny, you just know that there would be a pile-on to put him in his place. However because he's a doctor, it's somehow okay? SadAngry

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ToeToToe · 10/05/2018 09:42

In short I don’t think nurses or midwives (who are mostly female) would get away with this sort of behaviour and I’m surprised it seems to be acceptable for Doctors.

How very, very surprising. Women held to a higher standard than men - again.

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LizzieSiddal · 10/05/2018 09:43

Nonsuchfun thanks for posting those guidelines. He’s certainly contravening several of them.

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LizzieSiddal · 10/05/2018 09:46

It makes me feel very uncomfortable that his profile pic is of him in his hospital uniform. Does any other Dr on social media do this?

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