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Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?

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TrumpTrump · 09/05/2018 22:21

If you're not familiar with this supposed physician (yes, really), then you need to get over to Twitter and see this.

Harrop seems to spend most of his time harassing and insulting natal women whilst unquestionably supporting trans women. He is hiding behind his "medical expertise" and using it to shout women down.

It's both hilarious and terrifying! Shock

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Ereshkigal · 17/06/2018 09:00

Doesn't he realise that there is already some other saddo that does that?

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R0wantrees · 17/06/2018 09:47

Ereshkigal
Have you seen the Twitter account that 'woofs' at alleged transphobic tweets?

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Bowlofbabelfish · 17/06/2018 09:51

Set it up Adrian!

It’s illegal under GDPR, so maybe think about that first eh?

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Pratchet · 17/06/2018 10:35

The pomposity from TRA around 'correctly gendering' is risible. It's so obviously men relishing control over women and thinking their relish is undetectable.

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GeordieTerf · 17/06/2018 10:43

I'm so bored of this prick.

I'm disappointed that the parody account has gone too! Sad

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BoreOfWhabylon · 17/06/2018 10:53

He's flailing around trying to establish his USP in order to get himself a career in the media.

Not had much luck so far, has he?

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Datun · 17/06/2018 11:18

The pomposity from TRA around 'correctly gendering' is risible. It's so obviously men relishing control over women and thinking their relish is undetectable.

This happens all the time. It's leg crossingly creepy.

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 12:10

I've only skim-read this, but I think he is absolutely in breach of the GMC's social media guidance.

Especially this bit:

You must make sure that your conduct justifies your patients’ trust in you and the public’s trust in the profession.

www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/doctors-use-of-social-media/doctors-use-of-social-media

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Ereshkigal · 17/06/2018 12:13

^Ereshkigal
Have you seen the Twitter account that 'woofs' at alleged transphobic tweets?^

Yes that's what I was referring to. That's what Adrian wants to do. He has seen the racism one but doesn't appear to realise the transphobia "watchdog" account already exists.

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Ereshkigal · 17/06/2018 12:13

This happens all the time. It's leg crossingly creepy.

Indeed.

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Sarahconnor1 · 17/06/2018 12:43

NotTerfNorCis

Yes he was. In order, he has proudly tweeted his support for the green party then conservative then Labour. A matter of months after tweeting his membership of LGBT conservatives he was on TV giving interviews about the junior doctors strikes.

He will jump on any cause that will give him even the smallest bit of publicity I suspect because he wants a media career. That is what this is all about.

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arranfan · 17/06/2018 12:44

[heresyandwitchcraft quote] "I've only skim-read this, but I think he is absolutely in breach of the GMC's social media guidance. " [/quote]

I wonder if he is partly hoping to be a cause célèbre and acquire reputational, celebrity-pundit value by virtue of virtual martyrdom through being reported to the GMC?

That said, on a cursory look around, I can't see any helpful guidance on how outlandish a social media comment would need to be such that it would fail this, "your conduct justifies your patients’ trust in you and the public’s trust in the profession". In general, there is a very low conversion of complaints to hearings.

Outdated but a Telegraph piece has this:
[Telegraph quote ] Complaints from the public to the GMC doubled between 2007 and 2012 to reach around 6,000 it was found.
However only 1,000 of these were fully investigated and only a handful resulted in formal Fitness to Practice hearings. [/quote] Telegraph GMC item

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 13:28

arranfan

Sure, he might be going for trying to be like a rebel and aiming more at a media/political career. It might help, rather than hinder him. On the other hand, it seems like he is trying to speak as a doctor, with all the authority that gives him.

A formal complaint may not lead anywhere.

However, I can think of a few more conflicts of his Twitter behaviour with the GMC's Good Medical Practice. Because his way of addressing members of the "public," could legitimately make people worried about his ability to care for the individual "patient" in the following arenas:

31. You must listen to patients, take account of their views, and respond honestly to their questions.

32. You must give patients the information they want or need to know in a way they can understand. You should make sure that arrangements are made, wherever possible, to meet patients’ language and communication needs

33. You must be considerate to those close to the patient and be sensitive and responsive in giving them information and support

46. You must be polite and considerate.

54. You must not express your personal beliefs (including political, religious and moral beliefs) to patients in ways that exploit their vulnerability or are likely to cause them distress

It may be a reach, but Dr Harrop's behaviour online has undermined my faith in his ability to follow at least these GMC guidelines. It is not completely inconceivable that some kind of case could be built if there were enough voices chiming in regarding feeling that their confidence in him is low, and if one could link specific behaviour to each point. I think the hardest link to make is whether this behaviour has actually resulted in patient mistreatment in practice, but I do know that the GMC cares about the public image of the medical profession. I don't know if anyone wants to do this, or thinks it would be beneficial. And I really don't know what the GMC would do about it.

All I do know that I wouldn't trust that I would be fairly treated by him, if he knew my beliefs. And he makes me worry that he would be sexist towards me.

www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/good-medical-practice/duties-of-a-doctor

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 13:31

I forgot to put in the most important bit, sorry.

These are the overarching duties of a doctor under maintaining trust:

Be honest and open and act with integrity.
Never discriminate unfairly against patients or colleagues.
Never abuse your patients' trust in you or the public's trust in the profession.

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R0wantrees · 17/06/2018 13:44

heresyandwitchcraft & arranfan

There is another recent thread with relevent discussion:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3248676-dr-adrian-harrop-dr-misogyny-is-pursuing-another-woman

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heresyandwitchcraft · 17/06/2018 13:58

Thanks R0wantrees

Saving it for later as I need to get some fresh air and a reminder that the world is still beautiful and real. To double check that stones are hard and water is wet, as it were.

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R0wantrees · 17/06/2018 14:53

heresyandwitchcraf
About to do exactly the same thing... very grateful for having a dog that needs long walks!

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SunsetBeetch · 17/06/2018 17:27

He's calling us names now.

Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?
Dr Adrian Harrop, who the funk does he think he is?
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Bowlofbabelfish · 17/06/2018 17:31

Dear Adrian,

As a doctor, you should not be using the word ‘cretin’ as a term of abuse any more than you should use something like ‘spaz.’ It’s extremely offensive.

Ps my pronouns are Dr, Dr and Dr.

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Pratchet · 17/06/2018 17:35

Wow. 'Cretinous'. Not a good word for a doctor to use. Keep the fuck away from my family, Harrop. My pronouns are also Dr, Dr and Dr.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 17/06/2018 17:38

Oooh, lostinmcmuffins is the former Mickey Bass - the anarchist SJW now gone all mermaidy and sparkly.

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SunsetBeetch · 17/06/2018 17:39

Yes pretty shocking. But he's the good guy, of course.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 17/06/2018 17:41

OMFG! Cretinous?! Wow.

I know a child with congenital hypothyroidism. SadAngryAngry

What a total cunt.

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Bowlofbabelfish · 17/06/2018 17:43

Very unpleasant to hear ‘cretinous’ in the mouth of a doctor. It’s akin to calling someone a moron, mong or spastic as a term of abuse. Very, very poor show, sir. I wouldn’t want you treating any children with intellectual disabilities with that attitude.

Your language and aggression reflects directly on patient perception of the NHS.

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FloralBunting · 17/06/2018 17:49

My goodness, what a peach of a guy. I'm heartbroken not to meet with his approval as a Mumsnet member. I might need cheese and wine to cope with the disappointment. Actually, I think I'm going to cope, but I'll still have the cheese and wine, just in case the despair returns.

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