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Posie: truthcrime harassment continues

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Pratchet · 06/05/2018 08:42

Susie Green from Mermaids has appealed against the CPS decision not to pursue Posie.

Posie described truthfully what Susie Green did to her child in Thailand at the age of sixteen: surgery involving the removal of genitals, a decision so shocking to the Thai government they raised the age bar for such operations to 18.

A woman is being pursued and harassed for telling the truth. Can we show as much support as possible please.

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HubrisComicGhoul · 06/05/2018 08:50

Well she definately has my support. We need to stand up for women that speak out.

UrsulaPandress · 06/05/2018 08:53

She still has my support.

Pratchet · 06/05/2018 08:53

It's fascistic. If we don't support Posie, they'll come for us next and they'll come for our daughters.

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 06/05/2018 08:53

Indeed. Support to Posie. She has serious courage

On the other hand, if it got to court, it would peaktrans the entire nation.

TerfinUSA · 06/05/2018 08:56

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StarsAndWater · 06/05/2018 09:03

This is the thing that's going to make more people realise what Mermaids actually is. Most women (including myself until recently) just think it's a charity that supports gender non-conformity children.
Green has lost the plot if she thinks prosecuting Posie is a good idea.
No matter how you say stuff like 'bottom surgery', it still involves the literal dictionary definition of 'castration'. All this is going to do is make more people realise what's behind the euphemisms.
The more publicity this gets, the more people are going to realise that Mermaids isn't what they thought it was.

nauticant · 06/05/2018 09:05

Posie has my support.

StarsAndWater · 06/05/2018 09:05

And much support to Posie. I can't remember what happened with the legal fundraiser, but if you do end up needing more support there, I'll be happy to contribute.

AsAProfessionalPenis · 06/05/2018 09:06

I find it shocking that mermaids are allowed into schools or near any children
I think parents would be shocked if they knew what Susie Green had done to her child
Let's hope this backfires and more people learn the dark side of mermaids

NotARegularPenguin · 06/05/2018 09:08

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LizzieSiddal · 06/05/2018 09:08

How awful that Posie is being put through this.

I expect the CPS thought “WTF?” when reading the charge and justice will prevail.

I’d like to comment on Green’s state of mind, but I’d get deleted.

BarrackerBarmer · 06/05/2018 09:09

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 06/05/2018 09:19

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LizzieSiddal · 06/05/2018 09:21

Does Posie have any legal comeback once this whole thing is over? Could she sue for harassment for example?

She stated FACTS? How can anyone try to prosecute her for that!

LangCleg · 06/05/2018 09:25

Quite aside from anything to do with Mermaids and/or Susie Green and her child, this worries me immensely. Posie is right to characterise it as a free speech rather than a trans issue.

Here's the points to prove for malicious communication:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/27/section/1

Is refusing to use a euphemism a message which is indecent or grossly offensive?

This is a slippery slope. Very slippery.

Pratchet · 06/05/2018 09:26

Assigned, doesn't that count as harassment. I reported anyway.

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Betsvigi9 · 06/05/2018 09:28

It's a misuse of police time. I live in West Yorkshire and I am furious that scarce resources have been wasted investigating this nonsense. I might write to the police crime commissioner and ask how come they don't have time to investigate burglaries, but they do to pursue personal vendetta's on behalf of members of the public. It's absolutely disgraceful.

Jeanhatchet · 06/05/2018 09:30

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 06/05/2018 09:30

Don't understand Pratchet. Can you explain?

AsAProfessionalPenis · 06/05/2018 09:31

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c75kp0r · 06/05/2018 09:32

Yes if it went to court, I suspect they’d do a McLibel. McDonalds and their lawyers couldnt see that theyd have been much wiser to keep quiet and let the story slip into obscurity. Instead all of their dirty laundry was aired in public for years on end,. The extremists in this debate wont know when to shut up either.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 06/05/2018 09:34

I think it would be good if we start reporting TRAs for vexatious reporting. What with Linda Bellos and now someone is thinking of doing the same with Ann Sinnot - this is clearly not in the spirit of a free democracy.

False allegation of hate crimes need to be recognised as harassment and prosecuted as such.

20pencepiece · 06/05/2018 09:35

You can't change sex. Removal of the testicles is castration. It isn't bottom surgery, the buttocks aren't being operated on. It's all cosmetic surgery and I'm sick of all the gaslighting.
I totally support Posie.

SomeonesRealName · 06/05/2018 09:37

I support Posie and am in awe of her poised, articulate and courageous response to the persecution she has faced.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 06/05/2018 09:40

Vexatious litigation by mobbing -

Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.

It is important Posie/Linda to remind the CPS/police that this is the latest in a pattern of vexatious complaints with ulterior motives i.e. to silence women speaking out about their safeguarding concerns. This is the MO of serious abusers. It is also organised crime:

Offence of participating in activities of organised crime group

(1)A person who participates in the criminal activities of an organised crime group commits an offence.
(2)For this purpose, a person participates in the criminal activities of an organised crime group if the person takes part in any activities that the person knows or reasonably suspects—
(a)are criminal activities of an organised crime group, or
(b)will help an organised crime group to carry on criminal activities.
(3)“Criminal activities” are activities within subsection (4) or (5) that are carried on with a view to obtaining (directly or indirectly) any gain or benefit.

Someone/group needs to bring a prosecution for organised crime against the TRAs.The evidence are the unrelenting threats, harassment and assaults re preventing lawful meetings and intimidating women plus now using the police to bully by proxy.