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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Caitlyn Jenner to speak to parliament.

115 replies

picklemepopcorn · 04/05/2018 12:59

Oh joy. Channel 4.

Caitlyn Jenner Will Address The UK's Parliament On Diversity - BuzzFeed UKapple.news/A_t-dvNi9RB6qSgmb92Wjpg

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PositivelyPERF · 05/05/2018 17:07

Lily Madigan has started a petition to stop Jenner speaking to parliament

They’re starting to eat themselves. Oh joy. 😁

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 17:09

Basically feminists, somehow, will get the blame for this car crash.

TrumpTrump · 05/05/2018 17:21

Yes, CJ is from the old-school of transgender theory. They didn't see themselves as female until they were dressed as one.

Also, they still attend a men-only golf club and let their kids call them 'dad'...

Ereshkigal · 05/05/2018 17:23

Yes, bizarre. Lily Madigan has started a petition to stop Jenner speaking to parliament.

Best get out my popcorn maker.

MrsJayy · 05/05/2018 17:28

Jeezus wept there is no words to express how much I hate Caitlyn Jenner Angry Vapid arrogant ignorant privaleged are just some words that are apt for caitlyn fucking jenner, I wonder if they are coming over on Airforce 1 when DT visits

MistressDeeCee · 05/05/2018 17:30

Rich white privilege.

MistressDeeCee · 05/05/2018 17:32

Lily Madigan has started a petition to stop Jenner speaking to parliament

Why oh why isn't there a "Smirking" emoji😂

Does anyone know why, please?

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 05/05/2018 17:38

Sounds like Lily Madigan & friends are afraid that Caitlyn Jenner is going to say/state that although ‘I prefer to be called she & feel like a woman & look like a woman, biologically I am male. Surgery etc has allowed me to live my life as a woman albeit a transsexual woman (although my biology is male.)’

LM & co will be/would be frothing at the mouth.

Stranger things have happened.

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 17:42

Rich white male pribilege

OvaHere · 05/05/2018 17:45

Actually I think someone should extend an invite to LM. A debate between Republican CJ and Momentum Lily might be erm...interesting.

Weebo · 05/05/2018 17:45

Lily said "Parliament didn't choose her. Channel 4 did, who have tons of trans contacts, including me."

LM sounds more put out at not being asked than bothered about CJ's views on being trans.

It's all very foot stompy but undeniably funny to watch. :o

Popchyk · 05/05/2018 18:21

I think it is mainly because Jenner is a Trump supporter.

Link to petition here linky

AngryAttackKittens · 05/05/2018 18:22

So are there no British people who could talk to Parliament about diversity, or what?

This person is - white, straight, male, wealthy. Not born into wealth, but not born into poverty either. Estranged from the stepdaughter who's married to Kanye West. What diversity is this person going to lecture Parliament about?

MistressDeeCee · 05/05/2018 18:25

She is no spokesperson for diverse communities

Says Madigan who called black women "scary"

0 signatures on petition, tut tut

SisterMoonshine · 05/05/2018 18:29

Jenner has said some quite reasonable things.
They admit that they're not actually a woman.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 18:30

I think LM objects because in Lilys world everything is about Lily.

picklemepopcorn · 05/05/2018 18:36

white, straight, male, wealthy.

And successful in several fields, leading the field in sports, famous, friends with people of influence...

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Pratchet · 05/05/2018 18:44

#notoppressed

AngryAttackKittens · 05/05/2018 18:45

Not much of a public speaker, either, it has to be said. Unless you find jokes about nicking one's daughter's pants hilarious.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 18:52

I almost want to be a fly on the wall. Surely it escapes no one, the privilege jenner had for 60 years (and still has in many many ways)

Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 19:00

Copied from the petition, with no further comment from me

'otherwise they are just ticking a box because they can'

Dorade · 05/05/2018 19:04

If Jenner admits to not actually being a woman, presumably we can safely refer to him as "he"?

Given that "he" is the recognised pronoun for persons of the male sex.

But, speaking generally now, if people can demand we adopt whatever pronoun they want, however grammatically incorrect or simply ludicrous, where does that stop? Can they demand we address them as "Your highness" or Napoleon Bonaparte and do we have to comply?

Men who identify as women are simply that.

AnotherQuoll · 05/05/2018 19:18

Madigan and the snouty one are both very cross about it all. Before the end of the week there'll probably be a whole mob of narcissists each outraged that they weren't picked instead.

PositivelyPERF · 05/05/2018 19:22

I swear if I ever get asked what my pronoun is, I will insist on being addressed as Lady PERF. Though, of course, since I am actually a woman, it wouldn’t be long before I would be told that that’s a transphobic pronoun. 🙄

PositivelyPERF · 05/05/2018 19:35

This is about being fair, equal, and showing respect for trans people. Don’t mock us by putting a Trump supporter onstage to “represent” us. Many LGBTQ+ people openly dislike Caitlyn Jenner, and she is no spokesperson for diverse communities. Channel 4 need to stop with the tokenism and give the platform to someone else.

The hypocrisy is astounding. Throwing the rattle out of the pram because they don’t like who represents them, but actual women have no choice. Funny how they’re women until they’re trans, then they’re not like actual women, but still women, and so on and so on, like a merry go round.

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