Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

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Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

Some of my views and opinions are better off in seperate topics, i dont want to divulge and drag this one out in seperate issues and cause controversy.

leggere i understand the mistrust before i posted my topic, if people have deliberatly stirred trouble to post elsewhere for self gratification, then why wouldnt some think that i too am doing that, despite how this may sound, i want to better myself in worldwide views and make things better/easier for people i freely admit ignorance in many subjects and i truly long to better myself in everything that i can, like i say i truly enjoy learning about things most of my time is spent looking stuff up, reading and learning.

Side note, space fasinates me, so if there was someone here that studys or shares the interest id truly love to hear facts, opinions and wants of space and ailens and such lol.

Essentially i just want to learn and improve, if theres something to be learnt of feminism to bve applied to personal life then i want to know it.
In part for knowledge, in part for being a people pleaser, in part for sheer respect

I'm not sure "hi guys" would go down well (no pun intended) if Shon was in that particular group of people. You may find yourself being reported to the police for hate speech

"Hi everyone" is probably safer.

The Shrodinger's link from a PP earlier in the thread gives a good idea of how to 'read' situations that women may find threatening.

JustABrokenDoll this is what i mean, if i have been ignorant and a larger number of people take offence to the expression that i realise then ill try to avoid using said expression.

as said i have schizophrenia and i know my life sucks and in my view, i dont want others lives to suck so i want to be better for me and others

Please, your views and opinions are just as important as others. Don't hold back and if it causes controversy, good. That's part of why we're here. Btw, women have been "enjoying the act without guilt now" since the 1960's.

And probably a lot of women before that (but not admitting it)

leggere i just dont like upsetting people, like i say if some aspects of feminism can improve the way i act to others, i see it as a positive thing, i will never know what it is to be a woman and struggle, im not trans calling myself a woman, im simply a man, so i just want to be a better person essentially, for everyone.

Haha im sure women did enjoy sex before, but societally they werent allowed to, i dont want to talk sexual but its good that they can indulge in their likes in that area and not be like " WITCH, HEATHEN !! "

I like where we are right now but at the same time i fully admit that we can improve, but we are much better than say the 1600's

bewilderness, what's wrong with typing one handed? I am and using an old tablet which isn't working properly! That's why I'm always about 20 posts behind everyone else.

Have you done any looking into links people have posted? Have you browsed any threads in this section? I only ask because you want explanations and you have had a few now but they really can only go so far. It’s good to get initial insight from people themselves but you do have to do some research for yourself and this forum has plenty to read. Even in relationships you would see a lot of feminist views with regards to helping women with some great advice. Without sounding cheeky I am intrigued by the fact you say you are schizophrenic, and this will sound so thick but it’s not something I can google I don’t think, can your different personalities(?) log into one account or would it just be the one on here?

In fact, ignore that last question. It feels very rude to ask.

Please

The thing is, women are not a homogeneous group. Some women will be fine with some things when others aren't. Different experiences, different boundaries etc. Unfortunately there is no blueprint available when it comes to either women or men.

For me I suppose it boils down to two things: treat me as an equal and treat me with respect.

QuackPorridgeBacon i like your intriugness, this was my intention, just to ask, personaly, im pretty well medicated and balanced so i wouldnt say my life is too hard, not abused, good family and stuff but below that, i dont talk to my family about my conditions and depressions, wanting to not be here and such, i dont want to worry anyone or come across as attention seeking, im well aware that in tv and films people with my condition are shown as violent and stuff and i dont want to come across as "the odd one" but id rather hurt myself than others despite strong intentions, its why i want to become better for myself. i hate myself and myself, but i really want others to have a great life and if i can contribute to that it makes me self-happy.

Quack, I'm sure Please can speak for himself, but schizophrenia isn't seen as split personality nowadays.

I think women were sexual beings, and enjoyed sex before the 1960s. I like to think so, anyway. I wasn't around then!

The 60s sexual revolution was great for women's emancipation - the idea of women able to have to sex without fearing pregnancy, without having to be married. Lessening stigma for single mums and so on. No more forced adoptions, shotgun weddings.

Contraception has to be the biggest contributor to women's liberation (IMO). Married women no longer having to have baby after baby, every year or two. Freedom not to be mothers, even.

As a woman born in the 70s I have been able (and fortunate enough) to plan my family - I wanted 3 children, and that's what I have. Obviously nature doesn't always work out that way - but without contraception - I'd probably have about 10 children by now.

We have a way to go though, and the horrible feeling that women are suffering a backlash now just won't leave me.

I no longer want to "kill myself" as ive attempted instead of self harm ive taken to getting to tattoo's which can technically still be considered self harm, but at least im not trying to end it all,, its the minor stuff that keeps me around and as i say i want others to not feel like me and be happy so i like to try and make that happen

ToeToToe as said, im 25, most of my friends have children families and stuff, im not against it and one day i do want kids, but as of right this day, i know im not mature enough to raise a child efficiently, its not to say if it happened i wouldnt step up and raise a child, but if i was in a committed relationship, as of right now i dont feel im good/mature enough to be a good parent.

i think its good, if a woman wants to do more than missionary and simply just reproduce, cool in a good relationship i think its good to experiment and try things youve not done.

Lovely. And thankfully nobody actually requires your approval of their sexuality. Or any other man's.
And it is part of patriarchy that this is seen as remarkable

I am sorry to hear you have a serious mental illness. I am quite sure a number of men without MH problems have posted similarly ill-informed posts here, so you are not alone there . I hope you are in remission and have decent help at hand when you need it.

Wtf popped back onto this post and find OP is back and playing us all for fools

Bewilderness, yes I'm sure he is typing one handed 😡

I have a job, but feel i barely get by for myself, i dont want to have a child while feeling that i could not afford to accommodate the needs and toys and such that a child needs to develop

It’s good that medication is working for you and I know what you mean about tv. But I’m very interested in psychology and the mind and I know that it doesn’t always present in such a violent way. It’s good that you want to make people happy and be happy yourself regardless of your mental health. And good that you have a stable family life, that is so important. I would be the same with regards to my own happiness, if I’m making others happy then I feel happiness from that but deep down I hate myself quite a lot and have chosen to hurt myself rather than lash out at others. I also suffer from suicidal thoughts but have managed not to act on them through the love of my two girls. Hopefully we both find ways to make ourselves happy for us and through us rather than other people. Apologies for the rambling and moving from the topic at hand.

I was wondering how many boxes of tissues have been used in the course of this thread...