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Shon Faye hassling mumsnet

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SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2018 13:59

twitter.com/shonfaye/status/991568961513893888?s=19

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WanderinWomb · 02/05/2018 14:42

Great. Now I have an Erasure earworm, thanks y'all.

"Ooooooh oooh ooooh Sometimes, the truth is harder than the pain inside . . "

AnitaLovesVictor · 02/05/2018 14:43

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panjandrumpyjamas · 02/05/2018 14:43
too meee
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/05/2018 14:44

On what grounds could we report that account? Genuine question.

ScarletBegonias · 02/05/2018 14:47

Targeted harassment?

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 02/05/2018 14:48

My DH eats a lot of fish fingers. Fishfinger butty is the best emergency meal.

The internet does indeed have a long memory. Millwall cannot claim to be hardnuts again without being mocked. Can you imagine if Bird's Eye decided MN was indeed a cesspit of hate? Oh the memes. Oh the tv comedy panel show hilarity.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 14:49

I really have been enjoying my Erasure today (am I allowed to sound so possessive?) Vince Clark is an absolute legend.

Collidascope · 02/05/2018 14:50

I pity anyone whose self-image is so fragile they need to trawl the internet -but only the corners occupied by women, obviously -to find examples of "misgendering." Dude, stop trying to inflict your beliefs on everyone else. The majority of us don't believe in gender as anything other than a damaging construct. I speak as someone a few years younger than Shon and who hasn't had kids.

KatherinaMinola · 02/05/2018 14:50

She's not putting effort into reddit, piston heads and all those places to educate men about not abusing transwomen. She's here chasing pronouns.

Course not! It's not about educating men, it's about erasing women!

I'm no marketing expert, but I don't think transwomen are the target market for frozen family meals.

Collidascope · 02/05/2018 14:51

Oh and thank you, noeffingidea, for reminding me how good Erasure are.

Sarahconnor1 · 02/05/2018 14:52

I'm guessing life must be pretty dull if you have time to trawl the internet looking for examples of misgendering.

noeffingidea · 02/05/2018 14:54

Collidascope not at all, I believe we have Shon Faye to thank for that. They were the one that suggested it in the first place Smile.

Mamaryllis · 02/05/2018 14:55

In all seriousness though - it must be pretty dreadful to be so completely tied to your gendered identity. It's literally the only reason that Shon is invited anywhere, or given a platform. Without the trans thing, Shon wouldn't have a voice or a platform. It's pretty sucky. Her entire 'career' is based on being trans. She has a vested interest in keeping these ridiculous arguments going and making them as high profile as possible. Without them, she is a complete non-entity. Literally erased. She doesn't really want women to shut up. She wants to cause as much noise as possible so that her 'career' continues. As a career transexual, her entire life revolves revolves around being trans, not around being a woman. Shon doesn't really want transwomen to be considered women. If they were, bye bye career. Catch 22. Being a woman is the very last thing Shon wants to be.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 14:59

So SF's name is 'not like a regular mom' on twitter at the moment Confused

I would normally think of a 'mom' as an American/Canadian and having given birth to children.

There a new thing of claiming to be 'not regular' version of someone you bear zero resemblance too?

In a way I'm 'not like a regular Vietnam Veteran' - shall I change my name too and then hassle Internet forums for Vets ?

R0wantrees · 02/05/2018 15:00

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-transgender-activists-try-to-curb-free-speech-on-site-z3sr3nf6q?shareToken=b2eb62822dd26aecc0f88653978ed23a

"The founder of Mumsnet says transgender “thought police” are pressurising advertisers to withdraw from Britain’s most popular parenting website because it allows the discussion of trans topics.

Justine Roberts said she had been approached by three significant advertisers who had been threatened by trans groups.

“Transgender activists have contacted Mumsnet advertisers and said they will be organising a boycott of their products if they don’t remove their advertising from Mumsnet,” Roberts said.

The website had told the advertisers that it “works hard to keep the discussions civil” and was determined to let them continue.

“What’s worrying to me is the thought-police action around speech and the shutting down of the right to be able to disagree and immediately labelling it as transphobic,” Roberts said"

& the response from many who use Mumsnet:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3222471-AIBU-to-be-extremely-proud-of-Justine-Roberts-Mumsnet-right-now

WhoWants2Know · 02/05/2018 15:00

I would like to report Mumsnet for giving me Erasure earworms. You guys are worse than that episode of Scrubs where everyone was singing "A Little Respect"

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 02/05/2018 15:01

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magnetiq · 02/05/2018 15:02

There are genuine trans/ non binary feminist AFAB people speaking out about the fact that only women get branded TERFs, whereas men can be as genuinely and traditionally transphobic as they like and no-one pulls them up on it at all.
These are the rational-thinking non-shrieking trans ppl though, so they don't get heard in their own community.

GreasyFryUp · 02/05/2018 15:02

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OlennasWimple · 02/05/2018 15:02

Personally I love a lawyer in lipstick

PermissionToSpeakSir · 02/05/2018 15:03

I would love it if Erasure had a massive come back and injected modern pop with a bit of that joyous synth vibe!

spontaneousgiventime · 02/05/2018 15:03

If SF just has pronouns to worry about I wonder if SF might like to come and do my laundry pile then ironing? My DD is working until late tonight so asked if I could do some for her as DGD has had an upset tummy. She wants to collect it in the morning. SF?

Invalid · 02/05/2018 15:06

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NotTG · 02/05/2018 15:06

Shon has me and a few friends of mine blocked on Twitter. They’re a pretty well known Trans Exclusionist.

Invalid · 02/05/2018 15:06

Shon is boring