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Shon Faye hassling mumsnet

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SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2018 13:59

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leyat · 03/05/2018 23:10

@whoositwhatsit your Twitter account has been set up in order to harass women who won't submit to male authority. Pure and simple. The screenshots you have posted were posts that were not transphobic, just posts you didn't like, and the linking of twitter profiles to Mumsnet profiles is a form of doxxing.

Actual transphobia would never last long on here because users would report it. Indeed all you have done is highlight to onlookers how TA's are talking rubbish re Mumsnet; most people - i.e. the rational ones - will look on the idea of so-called misgendering as hate speech with the scorn it deserves.

Bottom line is you clearly want to facilitate controlling women's speech and that you are too cowardly to defend your post on here speaks volumes. If you think you are gonna get women here to submit to that then you are seriously confused. We haven't internalised misogyny. Sorry, not sorry.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 23:10

I imagine the only questions on here you deem 'legitimate' are from people who follow you on twitter any way. Tell them.

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 23:10

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 23:11

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TERFragetteCity · 03/05/2018 23:11

Isnt calling it 'breastfeeding' transphobic? So you need to report yourself to yourself.

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:12

@VaggieMight Nope, as I said above none of it exists anymore - the whole lot - DMs, tweets, followers list - has been deleted (I think someone shared a screenshot of the now-empty page on Twitter?)

CharlieParley · 03/05/2018 23:12

Whoositwhatsit

I cannot believe a single word you say.

You put up one of my posts as evidence of transphobia which contained nothing of the sort. It contained facts and concern for a distressed child. You are a monster if you consider concern for the welfare of a child to be transphobic and select me for targeting because of it. Yes, a monster.

M-o-n-s-t-e-r

Do you know how easy it is to copy a few words of your screenshots, google them and find the mumsnetters to harrass them directly? You should be ashamed of yourself.

And don't DARVO us.

Your account engaged in the targeted harrassment of women for expressing opinions that are protected as free speech in law. There is no law in the UK that outlaws misgendering, deadnaming or stating biological facts. You may wish there to be, but there isn't.

So coming here claiming to have been harrassed and threatened - by whom? Presumably the bad feminists you're fighting against? The terrible transphobes who just won't roll over and submit to your misogynist demands?

We've seen it. Women express an opinion, men including transwomen send them and their unborn children death threats.

Is that the side you're on?

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:15

@leyat Completely understand your point of view. We disagree on all of that. We retweeted posts that were sent to us, and Mumsnet agreed to have a look at anything they were tagged into. It's true that the vast majority of posts are reported and identified by the Mumsnet moderators, but on our very small sample size yesterday and today there were posts that they hadn't seen and were able to therefore find more easily. In particular, for people who were being personally targeted, they could report them more quickly.

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:17

@CharlieParley Nope, clearly not. On the side of feminism and women, genuine debate, equality and free speech. Not hate speech.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 23:17

people who were being personally targeted

The kind of people who tell women to enjoy their erasure you mean?

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:18

@TERFragettecity I think if you're feeding a baby using your breast, it's breastfeeding.

therealposieparker · 03/05/2018 23:18

Who the fuck is "us"? You're talking like an abuser now.

Popchyk · 03/05/2018 23:19

"Mumsnet was not 'targeted' by the feed. It would be fantastic if someone could set up similar ways of reporting hate speech for all the sites mentioned (Reddit, Pistonheads etc.)"

If Mumsnet was not targeted by the feed why did you call it MumsnetTransphobia? And invite instances of alleged transphobia on mumsnet only?

So Mumsnet was the only one targeted by you because you hold Mumsnet to a higher standard?

Dear God, the idiocy. Try to consider why it is you are trying to shut down debate on a site that even you see as less "grim" than the others out there.

Well, you've done Mumsnet now. Now sit back and watch your new friends take on Pistonheads and KiwiFarms. Go on, contact them and ask what their plans are to take on those sites.

Clue: it won't happen. Ever. Because they don't actually care about transphobia on those sites. They only care about stopping women from speaking.

leyat · 03/05/2018 23:19

WORD Charlie!

By the way I'm the person who called you a dickhead on twitter @whoositwhatsit - that was after I tweeted to MNHQ's Twitter on a thread and you told me not to respond to MN on that thread because you didn't want discussion there, and when I explained to you that you don't get to control twitter you persisted in telling me where to post, hence the comment. And it most clearly wasn't harassment because my wording was 'block me dickhead'. And you are literally directing harassment towards women, so don't even start acting like a victim here, what you are doing is disgusting.

OrchidInTheSun · 03/05/2018 23:19

Oh it's 'we' now is it? You and your baby is that?

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 23:20

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FermatsTheorem · 03/05/2018 23:20

Whoosit your Twitter account is directly responsible for a pregnant woman being doxxers and sent death threats and threats to her unborn child.

It is a shame that you have lost your grip on morality to the extent that you cannot see how despicable you are, but, believe me, everyone else can.

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:20

@OrchidInTheSun Not sure what my baby has to do with it, by 'we' I meant the people who were running the account.

LangCleg · 03/05/2018 23:21

It may be for the best that this thread is drawing to a close!

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 23:22

I second that lang

CharlieParley · 03/05/2018 23:22

My post was as far away from hate speech as a baby's babble. And feminists don't fight for the rights of males, they fight for the rights of females. You are fighting biological females to defend biological males. Complete opposite of a feminist.

whoositwhatsit · 03/05/2018 23:22

@leyat Yeah I didn't actually mean you, though nice to see you again. As stated very clearly, the whole point of the feed was to keep the debate open in ways that did not include hate speech, as a way of reporting to Mumsnet.

TERFragetteCity · 03/05/2018 23:23

Completely understand your point of view. We disagree on all of that.

Who the fuck do you think you are? You cannot force women and men to believe lies by setting up secret reporting groups.

If your dogma holds water, spell it out here. You know it doesn't so you sneak around reporting people? Fuck you.

cistersofterfy · 03/05/2018 23:23

And I wonder what Captain Birdseye makes of it all. Confused

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