Your peaktrans moment for today! Top this if you can.

[Ritzsaltedcrackers]

A woman was thrown out of a FB feminist group for challenging the idea that transwomen get periods.

apparently they DO get periods just without the small aspect of bleeding.

She was told that she was minimising transwomen's periods.

www.facebook.com/beth.rep/posts/10216741083464856

I wonder if one of the reasons we dismiss misgendering as an insult is because of women's history on the internet of courting misgendering with our user names so we are not verbally abused by men.
I didn't last two weeks using my name, Rose Grant, on the political blogs. I use the name of my house now and I am occasionally accused of being unmanly or a girly man on the political blogs, to the amusement of those in the know.

Deleting Datun is an act of violence!

Literally!!

Rufus!

I don't think HQ make a habit of explaining themselves over deletions.

I probably said a male pronoun, it being fairly fundamental to the lack of menstruation and all.

As I mentioned to Rufus on another thread, it must be very difficult to interpret what to delete, when on the one hand, you allow the concept to be discussed, but on the other, not the actual words...

Or we're used to being 'misgendered' if we have a neutral title such as Dr, the default assumption being male. It's either a bit annoying or tedious or downright hilarious...I once had a misgendered BCP prescription. Men aren't accustomed to being accidentally misgendered because they're not the 'second sex'.

I think somewhere in Datuns post there was a 'he'. I'm not sure it was referring to a specific individual. It's a bit daft - 'bio male' is (quite rightly!) evidently ok but is more explicit than a pronoun.

Datun! Deleted! Sacrilege!

I know!!!

Its like deleting the pope!!!

I've restrained myself from saying

The fucking pope

It felt wrong

The pope is it? Bloody hell. I'm going to have to start in with a lot more swearing.

Sorry, fucking swearing.

Alright...maybe the queen

I bet she swears

Wash your mouth out with soap, Rufus. Equating Datun to the head of a patriarchal religion?

Shitfuckpisswankcuntandbollocks. Datun got deleted!

errol

I thought that just as i pressed post

Lapsed catholic...shows what happens under times of stress

Random stomach cramps aren't a period. Maybe eating more fiber would solve the problem? Hope that helps (with your delusions).

Is what I would have wanted to write if I was part of that group.

But why rise to it angry. That's what TRAs do. They bait people and then play victim when someone does bite.

I don't believe biological human men menstruate, but there's every chanec there's side effects from hormonal treatment. Why not go high and reasonable, it makes perfect sense to discuss the impact of female
hormones on biological men (even opeb to the idea it may mimick some features of our cycles). But that doesn't require appropriation of a biological process unique to biological human women.

From what we can see of the exchange linked in the OP, the woman who was booted out was being very 'high and reasonable'.

Why hold women to that standard, Maisy? Women are allowed to be angry, be snarky, mock idiocy. We are not required to be the loving mothers of every random on the internet.

Sometimes blunt honesty is the best way to cut through nonsense.

I think it may just be best not to engage with stuff like 'periods' for trans women. There are more important things to worry about.

The example of having the wrong surname used, that's not violence, just annoying.

Words can hurt feelings, yes, but unless they contain threats I don't think they are violence.

Maybe I should disengage a bit. I think I will. @TransAuthor that's good advice the 'sticks and stones' etc. I really mean that.

When men are murdering people by driving vehicles into crowds and murdering a woman on a submarine, I don't think I care if trans women are imagining they get periods.

But why rise to it angry.

Women were concerned about the health of the person who may have been at sever risk dismissing abdominal cramps.
No one told them how to tell the difference between appendicitis and menstrual cramps, I don't think, but they knew it wasn't menstrual cramps.

Tglwgh

I'm going to continue mocking people who're being ridiculous, thanks.

How did Datun of all people get a comment deleted? Don't think I've ever seen her say anything that could be considered a violation of Talk guidelines.

Mods have prejudices too.

I’ve been deleted a few times today purely for calling a male person ‘he’.

I have explained my reasons for doing this. I will not be coerced or bullied into lying and saying something I do not believe to be true. I will not call a man a woman. Truth is important. Women must be allowed to tell it.

So disappointing that Mumsnet is silencing and censoring women for telling the truth.

Italiangreyhound Ordinarily I would agree with what you've said, but my concern is how long until we are not allowed to say that trans women do not have periods because it will be considered hate speech?

My ex used to gaslight me regularly. A cruel, horrible tactic that caused me to doubt myself so much that it affected my parenting, because I was constantly unsure if I was doing the right thing and would have to double/triple check my decisions. The relationship was abusive and although I was allowed an opinion it was always invalidated and I was told I was wrong even when I was right.

Now my concern is that will the government start telling me that black is white and if I dare to question that then I will be arrested and prosecuted. It's very much like 1984 and it terrifies me to be honest.

It's gaslighting on a societal level and women have every right to call it out and tell the truth, even if the truth hurts trans people's feelings.