Everyone should see this IMPORTANT

[MsMcWoodle]

Have a look. What country are we in:
www.facebook.com/julie.bindel/videos/pcb.10160135970780316/10160135907955316/?type=3&theater

[thebewilderness]

MadBadDadd
Do you ever talk about anything but yourself?

[MadBadDaddy]

@thebewilderness if posts are directed at me, would it be better if I ignored them? I'm not looking for a spotlight. Apart from responding I probably do really have the one thing to say.

[MadBadDaddy]

@thebewilderness ...and to answer your question, yes I do.

[Ekphrasis]

madbad an extremely good way to go about joining in debates here is to do what actually the majority of confident regular posters have done, before they started posting.

Spend a loooong time lurking and reading. Notice posting styles (I have learnt a lot from many, particularly Datun) and language.

Many here were on mn first for the conceptionand parenting boards, or the notorious AIBU car parking threads or relationships or special needs. It took time for things in this area to filter through and at first many lurk and learn, as a few questions.

You do tend get your arse handed to you on a plate at some point on mn.

[Ekphrasis]

I'm not saying you have to have the same opinions but it helps to reply in similar ways that keep debate moving forward.

[Ketzele]

hipsterfun, one of the advantages of being very aged is that you do get to see how these things come and go. I have always been a radical feminist, but there have been times when I've kept away from feminist activism because of all the nuttiness and negativity and bullying and policing each other. Ditto left activism. And lesbian and gay activism too. One of my best times as a lesbian activist, paradoxically, was Clause 28, perhaps because it was a battle against a very real danger, and forced us to be united and reasonable people to stand up for us.

So I do think this too shall pass. The students will move on. Activists will find another way of playing top dog. The question is how much damage will it leave in its wake, and who will pay the price for that. I'm inclined to say that children and young people will be the main victims, and then all the decent and real trans people who have a very real cause to fight and are seeing it trashed. Feminism will survive and we may even get stronger. I think the biggest reason for asking each other not to be gratuitously unpleasant, and that when they go low we should go high, is that when all this reaches its messy end there is an alliance to be forged between feminists and trans people. It would be a shame if that couldn't happen because our anger with a minority of vile posh boys forced a more permanent alienation.

[Ketzele]

I should just clarify that when I say 'real' trans people, I don't mean 'people who have really changed sex'. I'm distinguishing between thuggish bandwaggoners who are doing this till Daddy gets them a job as a management consultant, and those who genuinely and permanently as trans.

[MadBadDaddy]

@Ekphrasis Noted, thanks.

[SunsetBeetch]

Great post @ketzele

[EnglandKeepMyBones]

@catandtheteapot I'm buying my ticket for Newcastle tomorrow. I'm happy to meet up beforehand as part of a group if something can be organised.

[Wanderabout]

Great post Ketzele

[StealthPolarBear]

Im still struggling to figure this out. The stupid fucking giggling. Has anything happened since?

[SunsetBeetch]

Well Josh Connor is being an unrepentant little git

twitter.com/bindelj/status/988455196148879360?s=19

[SunsetBeetch]

Then there's this little twerp. Sorry, 'political activist'

twitter.com/appears_mental/status/988467812967559168?s=20

[hipsterfun]

Josh Connor is like an angry, politicised Nathan Barley, yeah.

[SunsetBeetch]

Yes @hipsterfun !

[hipsterfun]

Well fucking futile.

[Ereshkigal]

Josh Connor is like an angry, politicised Nathan Barley, yeah.

That is so exactly right! I was wondering who he reminded me of

[LapdanceShoeshine]

'this little twerp'

Indeed

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-naked-truth-on-jacob-rees-mogg-heckler-joshua-connor-kgx58mjtf

[Lancelottie]

So in February, the young chump was yelling 'No platform for sexists'
at Rees Mogg.
In April, he's yelling at people for knowing that males are male. So how does he know which sex people are being sexist about?

Doesn't he end up too confused to get out of bed in the morning?

[Gacapa]

I love Julie.

[JustABrokenDoll]

Those tweets were from 2017, but still utterly vile.

Josh has been remarkably quiet on Twitter since he got his arse handed to him on a plate a couple of days ago.

[hipsterfun]

Oh my, that blog post.

To stand with them at demonstrations like this. To watch as the police are called on them. To storm buildings on their behalf and risk arrest on their behalf.

Storm buildings, indeed! Risk arrest!

Stop, my sides are literally splitting

[SunsetBeetch]

Oh I.didnt notice the date of those tweets. Still not a good luck though.

[JustABrokenDoll]

Oh I.didnt notice the date of those tweets.

It goes to show that he's been a dickhead for quite a while, it's not just a recent thing

Scruffy little oik needs to get a job and stop harassing innocent women. Allegedly he's a member of Bristol Anarchists? Well all I can say is that the calibre of anarchists has certainly plummeted in recent years - nobody would have allowed that level of misogyny back in my day.