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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan - Twitter Update

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DarthArts · 07/04/2018 20:43

LM has changed the name of their twitter account, deleted all previous posting history and unblocked lots of users.

Has tweeted (in response to someone else) that non-one has spoken to them about online behaviour.

LM did get in a twitter spat after comparing trans struggles to racism and slavery and got a lot of previous supporters complaining. LM did issue a twitter apology about this then took a twitter break and has resurfaced with this new "clean" account.

@Madigan_lils

So not sure what's happened here.

I would hope maybe a degree of self reflection.

As ever, let's make sure any posts are not offensive please.

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hipsterfun · 08/04/2018 00:27

Makes you wonder how today’s sensitive ‘politicians’ would’ve coped with Spitting Image.

Must all published images be flattering ones in the age of Instagram?

Peaceloving · 08/04/2018 00:30

Haven't read all the pages, so it might have been posted already but Miranda Yardley unveiled many of the posts with misoginistic comments on here mirandayardley.com/en/how-transgender-ideology-is-destroying-the-labour-party/

Maybe someone from the Labour Party, or their more reflexive self has said, stop using TERF, and now is all transphobe!

DarthArts · 08/04/2018 00:53

I just want to allude to a pp that was referring to LM responding that some tweets were taken "out of context".

We need to remember that this works both ways.

Its known that TRA's lurk on these threads.

When posting its important to consider how what you write could be perceived, as an isolated post.

Imagine it as a single screenshot with a quote above from a TRA - what would they say?

It's a reason why it's often worth quoting a pp you disagree with in bold to show the context of what you are arguing.

#TGLWGH

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silvernutgoldenpear · 08/04/2018 01:40

Could the image just be very low res?

thebewilderness · 08/04/2018 01:50

The commitment by the Labour Party to disregard material reality and facts and even eject members guilty of being members of the reality based community seems a bit extreme. Does anyone think some peeps have gone rogue?

Nextloorejext · 08/04/2018 02:31

I’d guess this attempt to clean up their more ranty, unpleasant and downright nonsensical claims is likely more due to the very recent Times article. LM has also hinted at police action in regards to comments etc that have been directed at Lily. Who knows what’s round the corner. Also possible thst the LP have had a word. It’s most likely demage limitation.

Sunflowersforever · 08/04/2018 02:41

I just don't think LM has the maturity, wisdom, flair and skills to be in politics. Same goes for being an officer of any group. Absolutely out of their depth.

WhereYouLeftIt · 08/04/2018 03:11

Well I don't think The Times is picking on LM with that photo, the one of MY is similarly bad. Both photos look as if they've been enlarged from smaller low-res images.

Lily Madigan - Twitter Update
LassWiADelicateAir · 08/04/2018 03:31

Lily has an official role Lily is the "women's officer" (whatever that means- I have no idea) of a Labour party constituency somewhere.

Hannah over 2000 people, including me and other Mumsnetters, were put on a tweeted block list/ black list by Lily
So what? Who cares? Do you want to engage with Madigan on Twitter?

As this could have an impact on my personal safety i am glad that the op is bothering to check and update

How does Lily Madigan blocking you from seeing her Twitter feed threaten your safety?

This thread is my third Trans unpeak moment of the week.

AnotherQuoll · 08/04/2018 03:40

I feel I need to just quickly comment that people's reasons for referring to a TIM as "he" are varied. I don't do it to be "goady". I use normal make pronouns for male people because I speak standard English.

All that's happening as far as I'm concerned, is that I'm not lying. It's not an effort to goad, I'm speaking normally.

Gloating about compiling political hit lists, having women expelled, taking women's rights and privacy, while demanding to be called "woman" ? That's goady.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 08/04/2018 04:05

Lass, I think the concern with the block list is that they might be doxxed but dint know for sure.

You mention it's your third unpeak trans moment. I was wondering why, and what the others were? I saw the thread on that but I must admit I didn't really understand it Blush

SpringNowPlease2018 · 08/04/2018 04:10

Please could someone tell me what
#TGLWGH stands for? I looked it up and got a link to a table Grin

LassWiADelicateAir · 08/04/2018 04:12

You mention it's your third unpeak trans moment. I was wondering why, and what the others were?

The 4 deleted threads speculating/gloating that the YouTube shooter might be a trans woman.

The thread about the court case in France where an intersex person has been denied the right to have something other than male or female on official documents.

The constant threads about Madigan.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 08/04/2018 04:16

Thanks Lass
I didn't hear about those first two things, interesting.

LassWiADelicateAir · 08/04/2018 04:40

And also I can't remember which thread but a post about the Gender Representation On Public Boards (Scotland ) Act which was hyperbolicallly inaccurate.

thebewilderness · 08/04/2018 04:42

They Go Low We Go High.
It is something that Michelle Obama talked about and the Mumsnetters are going to try to adopt.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 08/04/2018 04:51

Lass, are those trans unpeaking issues or MN poster issues? I often think we need an "ignore" button.

Thebewilderness, thanks for explaining that.

thebewilderness · 08/04/2018 05:02

someone is wrong on the internet.jpg

Lily Madigan - Twitter Update
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sashh · 08/04/2018 07:00

HannahGlasgowGal

Madigan posted a 'block list' of twitter accounts and where possible people's real names and identifying data.

TERFragetteCity · 08/04/2018 07:16

The 4 deleted threads speculating/gloating that the YouTube shooter might be a trans woman.

These threads were about the issues that because so many violent crimes are being reported as being committed by women, when they are actually men - a concern surely all women have?

The thread about the court case in France where an intersex person has been denied the right to have something other than male or female on official documents.

Nothing to do with Trans then.

The constant threads about Madigan.

LM published a list of names of people that are supposedly trans phobic, including their real names. When these people have never even been in communication with LM? If LM wants to publish MY name - when all I am concerned with is the rights of women and girls - then why am I not allowed to comment on LM's actions?

Personally I think threads about LM just continue the LM narrative of being the most got at person ever...I think it would be best to stop giving them airtime.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 08/04/2018 07:19

Both photos look as if they've been enlarged from smaller low-res images.

On the times website, both images are combined into one - at a guess, they applied a filter to the whole thing to brighten it (Lilly's was very dark) and Miranda's dark hat meant that the balancing lightened Lilly's face more.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 08/04/2018 07:19

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Bearsinmotion · 08/04/2018 07:54

So the twitter feed is back, but with no tweets before Feb this year. Any tweets related to TERFs are gone (except one that may also disappear soon) the discussion on black women gone, the references to autism and schizophrenia are gone. The comment about working in a refuge, gone. Just a few anti racist tweets.

So anyone reading that Times article, going on Twitter to see what Lily has said will just get this gas lighted version of history that will make MY look like an unprovoked attack.

How is this ok?