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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I WILL tell my daughter to moderate her behaviour...

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NotTakenUsername · 28/03/2018 18:07

Because this land does not protect her otherwise.
I will advise that she should not attend a party with multiple men who think nothing of referring to women as a group of sluts or texting a mate to ask if there is any chance of a threesome.
I will ask her to consider what she wears and the impression she might inadvertently give off. I will strongly advise that a VPL is far preferable to the things that could be insinuated if she chooses to go underwear free.
I will ask her to take the long walk home to avoid being alone in a dimly lit area. I will inconvenience myself daily to collect her if that is safer still.
I will warn her of the reputation she may find hard to shake, if she has too many sexual partners.
I will teach her that men lie to get what they want.
I don’t care if this makes me a shit feminist or worse still a chauvinist.
She is my daughter and I love her and I must protect her from this world that is so perversely weighted towards men at the expense of women.
I’m appalled, but not surprised.
I give up.

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ScruffbagsRUs · 31/03/2018 20:01

My post refers to the point that people seem to think that what their DC do, is down to how they raised them. In fact, their DC have minds of their own and aren't robots that I programme what to do.

The problem he has with mixing with females is down to a number of these girls in his previous class/year making false rape/harassment accusations against former teachers, male pupils etc. I've told him that not all females are like that, but he just prefers to stick with his mates and play games online, like Minecraft etc, (where I can see and hear what they're up to, and am witness to what they're up to).

DullAndOld · 31/03/2018 20:06

and you know they were all false do you?

OK...

windchimesabotage · 31/03/2018 20:08

Ill be teaching my daughter to spot the signs of a woman abuser and to stay the hell away from them. Ill be teaching her to have the confidence to immediately leave any situation in which she is subjected to any level of disrespect for being a woman. There rare many decent men who would never take advantage of a drunk woman. I really think you can spot the ones who would pretty early on from their general behaviour. The danger lies in men who from the outset do not respond to you as a fellow human being. I know you can never fully protect yourself but I honestly believe that if girls were taught not to tolerate any level of disrespect less of them would find themselves in situations where it was too late for them to get away.
Problem is smaller actions are widely tolerated and not treated with the suspicion they should be. Whistling, un solicited touching, un solicited sexual remarks. I will just be telling my daughter to never trust a man who does these things and to actively look out for behaviour which demeans any women.

NotTakenUsername · 31/03/2018 20:15

The problem he has with mixing with females is down to a number of these girls in his previous class/year making false rape/harassment accusations against former teachers, male pupils etc.

Oh right, how did he know they were false?

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ScruffbagsRUs · 31/03/2018 20:40

These girls admitted as such and laughed about it. My DS was also accused, by a small group of 4 girls (who were 4 of a larger group of around 6/7), of hitting all 4 of them. My DS, at the time of the alleged attack, was in his room talking on Minecraft, with the DS of a family friend. I know that because I could hear DS upstairs, while I was tidying up in my room a few feet away. So he was nowhere near these girls.

The teacher that was accused of rape, at the time the young girl said he had raped her, was at my friend's house having dinner (both he and my friend are long-time childhood close friends, and grew up together). Besides, I know from many parties at my friend's house, that this teacher is very much in love with his wife, and is not interested in anyone else (if you saw what I saw, you'd be saying the same thing.........that he's smitten with his wife). The young girl's story was totally proven to be false, and I know that because I spoke to said friend on the phone at the time the alleged rape took place, all while the teacher was in the same room as her, saying hello to me, and my friend was relaying his message over the phone. Everyone who was in the room at the time, and others who had been on the phone to my friend, all spoke to the police about where the teacher was at the time of the alleged rape. It turned out that, only a few days earlier, the young girl had her advances turned down by said teacher, and she seemed to take it hard.

It took those accusations for DS to want to have nothing to do with females in general.

As I said, I can only teach him that there are a few women/girls that will make those accusations up, but those couple of incidents are enough for him to be put off girls for the foreseeable future. He's happy to go his own way, and I don't really blame him.

You know the old saying "Once bitten, twice shy".

NotTakenUsername · 31/03/2018 20:51

Oh ok. You made it sound like there were dozens but it was two incidents and only one of them was rape.

I suppose the point is, while falsely accused, it was quickly dealt with/didn’t end up with a false conviction.

I can understand your son’s reluctance. But given this case, you can probably reassure him that (for now at least) the law would be firmly weighted in his favour in the instance of an accusation, even with substantial physical evidence of actual sexual relations.

I hope for a day in the future where men would have to consider their actions to the extent your son thinks he currently does. But for now he is firmly in the camp of ‘more privileged sex’ when it comes to such matters.

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