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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

DrRadfem aka Venice Allan has been blocked from Twitter

267 replies

Trueheart1 · 23/03/2018 08:41

Some are suggesting it may be permanently. The silencing of women continues.

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OldCrone · 24/03/2018 10:30

How can they prevent new accounts being created? What stops you from setting up a new account with a new email and fake name? I realise you would lose all your followers and have to start from scratch, but I can't see how they can keep anyone off the platform.

Tralalee · 24/03/2018 10:33

I think twitter is a poor medium for debate anyway. I only started using it recently to support Venice, the Man Friday thing and a Women's Place but there are an awful lot of angry nutters there and I doubt anyone changes anyone's opinion. It's an echo chamber. Is there somewhere better to go? Mumsnet is fine but very self selected

I agree. Twitter is really awful.

I actually feel less admiration for people like jk Rowling and Mary beard because of all the time they waste on it.

I am glad I am not on it.

RedToothBrush · 24/03/2018 11:34

How can they prevent new accounts being created? What stops you from setting up a new account with a new email and fake name? I realise you would lose all your followers and have to start from scratch, but I can't see how they can keep anyone off the platform.

Simple answer. You can't. Ask a techy.

OvaHere · 24/03/2018 12:24

I don't see how individuals can be permanently banned.

I help run and moderate a small hobby forum. Over the years we have had a number of prolific trolls who come back time and again.

Some are pretty rubbish at tech and you can catch them out because they use the same IPs but most just use VPNs and change their IPs constantly. They usually get banned in the end anyway because of their behaviour but you can't stop them reregistering and coming back often with multiple accounts.

I suppose the issue for people like DRRADFEM is that if you do end up on a list of permanently banned users you can no longer use the site and be upfront about who you are.

This would be an issue for anyone who tweets from a position of having credentials in a specific area so for example Hadley Freeman has a twitter platform as a well known journalist which is how she gains followers and a significant voice. If she was perma-banned nothing can stop her coming back but she could only do it anonymously which reduces her status to pretty much nothing.

Not that I think twitter are going to be banning prominent blue tick users for the most part but it would affect individuals who have built up significant followings but are not famous or public figures in any official capacity.

It makes me uneasy because it has the potential to seriously interfere with political organisation depending on the bias of the companies that own the platform and any group that may have influence with them.

OldCrone · 24/03/2018 12:29

Red
I read that initially as they can't (stop you). But reading it again are you saying you can't set up another account? If I use a different computer/phone and log in from a different location or use a vpn, how can they link it to another account? I'm not a techy and my amateur techy DH is out at the moment, so I may have missed something obvious.

RedToothBrush · 24/03/2018 12:30

I meant it as I read that initially as they can't (stop you).

Nosetothesun · 24/03/2018 12:37

Best way to understand it is to see how it is being used right now.... of course if you happen to have been blocked by one of the 'TerfBlocker' type accounts, that's harder to see the full picture.

SardineQueen · 24/03/2018 13:11

Who is what with some teddy bears?

Trueheart1 · 24/03/2018 13:16

Sardine????

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SardineQueen · 24/03/2018 13:22

Sorry the talk upthread about someone called Cursed and some teddy bears that this is all about - who is cursed? Is there a link?

It's not a labour party colleague presumably? Although we have had HP poledancing etc and labour party cool with that, maybe men dressed up like little girls is AOK now as well.

RealCursedE · 24/03/2018 14:40

Hey friends,

Saw you were chatting about me earlier. Would just like to let you know everything you said isn't true but your willingness to believe it exposes your bias.

The pictures Venice believes we're me were sent to me by a TERF - amongst others - as an attempt to upset me. They're just randoms from the Internet. So I made fun of their attempt by saying they were ruining my family moment.

Don't be so gullible in future. It really makes you look bad.

RedToothBrush · 24/03/2018 14:47

So you're saying Venice was catfished.

Nice. That's low.

Datun · 24/03/2018 15:06

Catfished yes.

Women being targeted makes them look bad.

Got it.

RealCursedE · 24/03/2018 15:18

No that's not what I'm saying.

I had nothing to do with the picture or posting it. That was one of your friends, @ZewoHewo on Twitter. They sent me the photo to harass me with. So I made fun of that by sarcastically saying it was me. At which point someone must have taken that to Venice and told them it was me, not reading the blatant sarcasm in the post.

If you want to call this catfishing? Fine. But it wasn't me that did it, it was one of your own.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 24/03/2018 15:21

Who cares if it's you or not?

Apparently it's fine for grown men to dress up as school girls.

So there's no reason why Venice should have been suspended for asking if it was you.

Elendon · 24/03/2018 15:26

I challenged a petition posted on Facebook regarding permanently banning the odious Katie Hopkins. This was a post from a woman's officer in my local CLP. Everyone acknowledged she had mental health issues. I may find KH odious, but she does have a write to speak.

I didn't write it, but I found the poster more odious for posting the petition.

I know it's controversial, but freedom of speech is important. I'd rather judge what KH says, then disregard it, rather than ban her from speaking.

Elendon · 24/03/2018 15:28

right to speak

RealCursedE · 24/03/2018 15:30

I don't think she was suspended for that.

I didn't report her. I found it hilarious and made fun of it on my own feed. @notCursedE if you're interested!

DonkeySkin · 24/03/2018 15:30

Heads up: RealCursedE is one of the more dedicated TRAs on Twitter (and that's saying a lot). He harasses feminists (journalists in particular) relentlessly and obsessively, and clearly gets off on gaslighting women and sucking their time and energy. He's come here now to do the same to Mumsnetters. From what I have seen he lies constantly and blatantly, so I wouldn't believe a word he says here, nor waste your time trying to rebut it. He also constantly engages in really gross, manipulative emotional abuse of women while 'arguing' with them, designed to put them down and make them doubt their intellect and sanity, e.g.:

Don't be so gullible in future. It really makes you look bad.

The creep factor is off the charts with this one. My advice is not to engage him.

VanGoghsDog · 24/03/2018 15:31

Standing with your @DrRadFem - won't disclose my Twitter name as I have to keen name-changing here if I do, but am supporting you over there.
Quite surprised I'm not deleted yet though am blocked by many.

Juzza12 · 24/03/2018 15:31

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Datun · 24/03/2018 15:32

Apparently it's fine for grown men to dress up as school girls.

Well exactly, most people would be focusing on the fact that men dressing up as little girls should not be in women's spaces. Not going after the woman who highlights it!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 24/03/2018 15:35

Elendon
The TRAs on twitter have been celebrating uproariously about Venice and others being suspended. No supporters of free speech there

They have tweeted that they are going after Posie next

And now the hiheigin is trolling us here

Nosetothesun · 24/03/2018 15:37

in the spirit of fair play... this is parallel discussion online currently going on. Its a little different and some posters here may find themselves misrepresented....

twitter.com/notCursedE/status/977565710485544960

TERFragetteCity · 24/03/2018 15:51

So I made fun of that by sarcastically saying it was me.

Gosh, you are hilarious! You should be on the stage.

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