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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Man Friday hits the news!

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NotAWhacktivist · 18/03/2018 00:55

This doesn't seem to have been posted yet. Hats off to this women (she has posted here about her efforts)

Topless swimmer wades into trans row
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9a8e437c-2a35-11e8-8cd0-05c64066237c

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StickStickStickStick · 18/03/2018 19:01

Gosh the accompanying article!!! Kids swim team disqualified as they werent happy man changing with them :(

I wouldn't be.

Fekko · 18/03/2018 19:04

If s/he (I just don't know there days) gave a monkeys about anyone but themselves then they would step aside and let the little girls change in peace rather than 'punish' them by their disqualification. Selfish, self centred and egocentric.

Not exactly good PR for the cause is it - pushing aside a group of little girls to validate yourself?

Vickxy · 18/03/2018 19:05

It’s so interesting to read the comments on the DM article.. along the lines of ‘so if I want to I can just say i’m a woman and go and hang out in their changing rooms, don’t be so ridiculous’..

Yes, I think that the comments and such do prove that noone thinks selfID is a good idea at all. Even when they are thinking its just women doing it, most of them seem to be very disbelieving of the fact that a man could just randomly go wandering into womens areas. Its in protest to that, potentially being made into law you idiots!

If people were made aware that this is actually going to be a very real possibility, I reckon it would be something like 90% of the general public against it.

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 19:07

This person is quite stressed about #manfriday

So is this person, despite the "ner you're pathetic" bluster they're trying to put on.

https://twitter.com/notCursedE/status/975325948198510593?s=20

MistressDeeCee · 18/03/2018 19:10

oh, so I guess the same women will think it's fine if trans women like me use the men's pool instead where we can frolick semi-naked with their husbands & boyfriends

You sexy thang you😂

We live not so far from Dulwich. I'm off to warn OH and tell all my mates too, to ban DHs from Leisure Centre from now on. "Frolick", you say. .? It's clearly a den of iniquity. 1 look at the budgie smugglers and men will drop their wives in an instant.

Datun · 18/03/2018 19:14

transcendentphobic

This person is quite stressed about #manfriday grin

twitter.com/UglaStefania/status/975419815534977024

Is this person really claiming that women showing up the problem, is more of an issue than men taking advantage of the problem?

#translogic

AngryAttackKittens · 18/03/2018 19:14

My DH has been flirted with by trans women on a validation kick. He's been alternately bemused or alarmed depending on how big they were. Overcome by lust, not so much.

BubblegumFactory · 18/03/2018 19:18

Brilliant Amy and a Hannah! Hats off to you both.
I am concerned though that this self ID crap will get through because the general public is either completely unaware or doesn't get it - clearly evidenced by all those Daily Fail comments.
Sadly lots and lots of people are completely thick or too lazy to read a short article and not just the headline.
Worrying.

Fekko · 18/03/2018 19:25

Angry - hang on, (I'm assuming they werent transsexual) so a woman who says they are a man, but has all the woman bits (no penis) but interested in a man, so a gay man-woman?

How the hell can you tell what's what these days?

I remember scoffing at my parents in the 1980s gender-ending era of boys looking like girls and girls looking like boys - 'Eeeee you can't tell the boys from the girls!'

AngryAttackKittens · 18/03/2018 19:29

I don't even think they were necessarily gay, a lot of men with AGP will flirt with men because they want the validation of being "seen as a woman". Blanchard wrote about this, it's a sort of pseudo-gay.

DH's comment was that compared to actual gay men they're incredibly bad at flirting.

(He grew up in a city with a massive gay population so is used to and fine with regular gay men flirting, though not interested.)

TERFragetteCity · 18/03/2018 19:29

Angry - hang on, (I'm assuming they werent transsexual) so a woman who says they are a man, but has all the woman bits (no penis) but interested in a man, so a gay man-woman?

No trans women are men who say they are women. So man on man action.

Mouthtrousersafrocknowandthen · 18/03/2018 19:31

Owl has "conversations" like this one. I can't understand a word of it. It is mostly hooting I think.

twitter.com/UglaStefania/status/922835066706898944

goodthinking99 · 18/03/2018 19:32

I bit the bullet and registered with the Fail to comment in a reasonable and measured manner to reinforce the message that it's the self ID issue that is bollocks, but it's not shown up along the many other comments from PP on this thread. Grrrrrrr.....

YourVagesty · 18/03/2018 19:42

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/topless-woman-male-only-swimming-pool-protest-gender-recognition-act-amy-desir-dulwich-south-london-a8261801.html

It's in the Independent now chaps, and in The Evening Standard.

Go Amy! And the rest of us - let's keep this rolling.

worstwitch18 · 18/03/2018 19:51

Surprisingly The Independent had the best coverage so far!

transcendentphobic · 18/03/2018 19:57

Datun
I think that's what they're saying yes.

I had a look at their profile and I suspect they're a TIM who goes out with a TIF but they're both non-binary.
Probably a bit terfy to say this but how does that actually work out?

TerfsUp · 18/03/2018 19:58

The people replying to the article in The Indy do not get it at all.

Two of my favourite comments: "How many women soldiers died at the Somme?" and "Big news...feelings are facts."

It was a field day for the hard-of-thinking.

Ereshkigal · 18/03/2018 19:58

That's exactly the case transcendent.

GabeIsShocking · 18/03/2018 20:01

Have you a link to the ES piece?

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 18/03/2018 20:01

Superb Star Star Star

PissedOffWoman · 18/03/2018 20:06

Amy and Hannah, you are amazing.

YesItsADebate · 18/03/2018 20:22

Evening Standard

Triliteration · 18/03/2018 20:23

Thanks Amy and Hannah!

I’ve enjoyed the Twitterstorm. I was even added to the TERF and Cunt blocker lists for the first time off the back of my comments. I think this is another huge step forward. It’s finally hitting the media properly.

Fantastic!

CadyHeron · 18/03/2018 20:25

I was even added to the TERF and Cunt blocker lists for the first time off the back of my comments.

Oh wow, niiiiice. Just for I presume questions? As I've seen TERF flung around as an insult just for perfectly rational, and being polite questions.