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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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The self-ID petition is now live!

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YesItsADebate · 12/03/2018 11:52

This is the petition asking the government to consult with women on the proposals to enshrine gender identity in law.

Link: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/214118

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NoSquirrels · 15/03/2018 21:44

SandyDrawsBadly - that is bloody GENIUS.

NoSquirrels · 15/03/2018 21:45

Please could the new thread have a title that makes sense to people who don’t know about the issue? I want people to click on it when it appears in Active Convos

@testing Ideally I think we would have it begin AIBU... which means it might need to begin in AIBU even though it will get moved again...?

AntiqueOlive · 15/03/2018 21:46

C'mon Airdrie and Shotts!

Testingnamechange1 · 15/03/2018 21:53

AIBU to think that men should not be allowed on women’s hospital wards? SIGN NOW

AIBU to think that female security guards should not be forced to strip search men? SIGN NOW

AIBU to think Girl Guides should stay single sex? SIGN NOW

Something like that?

YesItsADebate · 15/03/2018 22:00

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld please do. Sandy’s drawing is hilarious 😂

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Melamin · 15/03/2018 22:01

Only 9 grey areas left - any takers?

Waddlelikeapenguin · 15/03/2018 22:07

Why did the 20 before 5000 take forever but it's jumped to 5035 now!

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 15/03/2018 22:08

Done!

DarthArts · 15/03/2018 22:10

Twitter I'd guess.

It's starting to get a bit of traction now.

Even people without many followers are adding the link to their tweets replying to people who have thousands of followers.

It's a good tactic.

If you are invested in this it's worth considering.

You can create an anonymous account and just keep posting the link on posts of people with a massive following.

TheMostBeautifulDogInTheWorld · 15/03/2018 22:12

SANDY HAS LIKED MY TWEET. I am kneetremblingly starstruck.

YesItsADebate · 15/03/2018 22:12

Also the Women’s Place UK meeting tonight.

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YesItsADebate · 15/03/2018 22:13

New thread in AIBU - AIBU to love the Mail and The Sun?

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Percypig5 · 15/03/2018 22:13

@Testing from someone who is late to the party I agree. It took me a while to fully grasp exactly what was being proposed. It’s difficult as it’s complex and hard to put succinctly but I think things like the impact on our children re changing rooms will be the massive worry for most.

I have (now!) done some reading around the issue (and signed the petition obvs) but I think you need to be a bit invested to take that step.

I am no doubt stating the bloody obvious and conclusions you all came to way back (sorry) but I wish I’d been drawn into it sooner but it all seemed a bit over my head. Also I think starting out with a this is not transphobic message kind of puts people on alert that it may well be (like when people say I’m not being rascist but... [insert something rascist]). Apologies for newby over enthusiasm/probable naivety and realise it would be more helpful to come up with an actual thread title!

CapnHaddock · 15/03/2018 22:14

Hurrah! Thanks for the fb prompt. That fucking virtue signalling makes me want to scream. Thought it was interesting that most of them faded away when the TIM started asking if he'd be turned away if he turned up.

All those woke women would have conniptions (and thanks for reminding of this word Lionel Shriver) if Danielle Muscato got his hairy little bod out in their shared dorm. And yet there they are, virtue signalling away like sodding windmills.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 15/03/2018 22:20

I dont do twitter but willing to try - i keep wondering if we should be tweeting swimming pools/gyms asking if they have single sex changing linking the petition so users of the gyms would see it. Does it work like that?

MotherTERF · 15/03/2018 22:27

I have tried to sign this 3 times but am not getting sent the link via email. Have not had this problem previously. Anyone else experienced this?

aRespectableBureaudeChange · 15/03/2018 22:30

Perhaps go to search box and search word "petition" and then if it has landed in any other folder it will find it. Usually find missing things like that, if can't find even in junk etc - seem to be hidden in plain sight somewhere .

DarthArts · 15/03/2018 22:32

Mother a lot of people have found the response has been sent to their spam folder. Try there for the link.

SmurfOrTerf · 15/03/2018 22:42

Waddle - NoSquirrels has posted the thread on Gransnet

It all helps

aRespectableBureaudeChange · 15/03/2018 22:53

Percy - I'm new too - like you I think maybe anything starting with word 'trans' puts people off opening thread and reading - it did me, thought not for me to have an opinion, think I'll duck out.

So words and phrases that spark interest in new people are an area to think about - as some words just make people think:

feminism - out of my league, sounds bit clever;
politics - sounds boring;
trans... sounds 'phobic' etc etc

TheSistineMadeMeScream · 15/03/2018 23:20

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BlackeyedSusan · 15/03/2018 23:27

AIBU to think York looks like a boob/nipple?

BlackeyedSusan · 15/03/2018 23:54

bed time monday: 2839 signatures.
bed time Tuesday: 4046
bed time Wednesday: 4659
bed time Thursday:5089

Jux · 16/03/2018 01:59

Signed. Sorry, a bit late to the party. Am debating whether to share on FB too, there are people who would stop speaking to me, and a couple of transgender people who be very hurt.

worstwitch18 · 16/03/2018 05:06

Juxare you sure people would stop speaking to you? I am pretty open- some people disagree with me but my friends respect my views and my right to have them.