Munroe Bergdorf for Grazia "Women Are Getting Feminism Wrong.

[HelenaDove]

graziadaily.co.uk/life/opinion/munroe-bergdorf-women-getting-feminism-wrong/

I suppose womanface works well in glossy women’s magazines because their purpose is to sell you things to make you look a certain way and a tim will need to buy lots of those things if they have the intention in being able to ‘pass’. I’ve defo reached peak media aimed at women that solely trades in reductive stereotypes.

Not just mansplaining, but transplaining.

It's Juno Dawson all over again. This article made me so angry, I haven't bought Glamour since (and I used to enjoy it as mindless fluff):

www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/article/what-it-means-to-be-a-real-feminist

Note the 'real feminist'. Pfft.

We need to boycott every magazine/ newspaper that supports this insideous mysogyny dressed up as progress.

"In the past, my relationships with cisgender actual women have been a valuable source of strength but now they've realised that a lot of trans rights activism is badly rebranded mens right activism and are rightly pissed off"

Fixed that for ya Munroe

I'd assumed most people realised The Onion was satirical not an instruction manual

www.theonion.com/man-finally-put-in-charge-of-struggling-feminist-moveme-1819569515

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

Anyone posted this yet?

GSCE Media Studies taught me what a load of bollocks 'Women's' magazines were.

They RELY on stereotypes for profit.

I’m just angry
Angry and disappointed

FYI vaginas are indeed pinkish, as are most organs in our body, what with the blood circulating and all.

I would imagine Bergdorf's surgical wound is quite pink too.

Is it pink or not.....read this at your peril...

www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=89325.0

Vaginal vestibule? Is that just by the front door?
No difference except for no uterus at the end?
It's like they are talking about car parts.

I’ve seen infertility mentioned a couple of times now as a helpful justification by TIMs that being a woman isn’t defined by having children/female reproductive anatomy.

I want to say for the record that I have never felt more fundamentally a women as during my ongoing battle with infertility.

OPKs. LH/FSH blood tests. Progesterone blood tests. Transvaginal scans. Ultrasounds of my ovaries. Pelvic MRIs. Hysteroscopy. Uterine biopsy. Fibroid removal. Endometriomas. Polyp removal. Positive pregnancy tests. Miscarriage. Oocyte simulations. Egg collections. IVF. Failed IVF. Complications after egg collection. Surgery to save my ovaries. AFC/AMH reducing. Post-miscarriage flooding during periods. An actual karyotype analysis which defines me as Normal Female, 46,XX.

How dare these people co-opt my experiences as an infertile woman to try to justify their aim of elimination of biology, of science, of all reason to further their own ends.

I am a woman. With two X chromosomes in my cells (non-gametes) and everything that entails. We have fought for medicine to recognise that female biology is different to men’s because of BIOLOGY, not because of how someone feels in lipstick and a dress.

Oh my days!

Andrew Neill excoriating poor old Barry Gardiner about Bergdorf's appointment by Dawn Butler right now.

"But she is a product of middle class privilege who says a homeless man has white privilege. You're joking with this, aren't you?"

(Sorry. On Daily Politics.)

Barry's line - "We know what a lot of she says is entirely wrong but we still want her perspective."

"BUT YOU APPOINTED HER AS AN ADVISOR. IT'S A JOKE!"

"It's not really the actual Labour Party. It's just Dawn's thing."

"No it isn't!"

Is that on iPlaye?

Trying to Palm it off on a woman

Thank you Andrew Neil!

It will be on iPlayer. About twenty minutes in, just before PMQs start.

Poor Barry. He clearly understood what a fiasco he was attempting to defend.

"What makes a woman ‘a woman’ has no definitive answer, nor does it need one."

So we are indeed doing feminism wrong, by doing it at all.

No such thing as a woman therefore no need for feminism.

Case closed.

Poor Barry. He clearly understood what a fiasco he was attempting to defend

TBF Labour's Brexit 'strategy' has given him loads of practice

The way the trans lobbyists have taken hold of the identity politics debate is maddening! MB writes in that piece as we all only have one identity and that has to mean the same thing to everyone who shares it - which is bollocks. I am a woman and British and English and Christian and a feminist and a wife and a friend and a daughter and a sister and a godmother and a swimmer and a reader and a cook and more - and I can be all of those things at any one time without contradiction and without anyone needing to tell me how to be a better version of any of them.

You don't get a pass on being a twat because one of your identities is with a group you think is oppressed.

LadyScience

Such rampant in your face misogyny.

It's interesting, it's as if donning womanface takes the filters off. Most men know not to come out with shit like this unless they are card carrying MRAs.

Is it like the effect where fancy dress lowers inhibitions?
Or is it like where you can say things about "your group" that outsiders can't... And they see themselves as women so are totally comfortable with coming out with really nasty statements about women?

The timing of this piece with the appointment as an advisor to Labour is just a big fuck you to Labour women, isn't it, in the light of what's been going on lately?

Bergdorf is just thick, his only ability is to regurgitate word salad.
And pout a bit.

oh god, it just gets worse and worse. Stop the planet, i want to get off.