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Munroe Bergdorf for Grazia "Women Are Getting Feminism Wrong.

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HelenaDove · 27/02/2018 21:28

graziadaily.co.uk/life/opinion/munroe-bergdorf-women-getting-feminism-wrong/

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TERFclick · 03/03/2018 11:55

I do think this will bring a fall of Momentum and the Trans movement. Labour, Lib Fems, LGB and transsexuals now needs to rebuild.

Thisusernamethingistricky · 03/03/2018 12:24

I'm just thinking about the whole asking for DMs in different contexts.

Like, if a gay man who was nearly 30 was asking kids who thought they might be gay to DM him so that he could offer them support, people would think that weird wouldn't they?

Thisusernamethingistricky · 03/03/2018 12:26

Oh, I just looked at MBs twitter, MB is 31! Google seems to have MBs age all over the place!

panjandrumpyjamas · 03/03/2018 12:36

haha guess the birthday?
28 27 in 2017 Me thinks someone is also transage.........
celebsiren.com/munroe-bergdorf-bio/

SophoclesTheFox · 03/03/2018 13:12

From the CelebSiren website linked above: "Her name before being a transgender was Ian"

Oh god, I am snorting with laughter at that.

Ian!

(really quite unfortunate way it's been phrased, too. I'm Terfy Terferson but even I wouldn't say "a transgender").

CapnHaddock · 03/03/2018 14:24

Just read an interview that said people mistook Bergdorf for a girl when he was young because of the way he walked and talked. And yet the same article starts talking about all the abuse he gets on the street for being trans. So when he was young and looked very much like a schoolboy, people thought he was female but now he's had surgery and taken hormones, people can tell he's male? Confused

Really is thick as mince

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2018 07:30

Well...

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1148564e-1ffd-11e8-a25c-0a92182647c9
John McDonnell hints party is reviewing choice of trans aide Munroe Bergdorf

John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, has suggested that Labour is reviewing the appointment of a transgender model as an adviser to the party.

Munroe Bergdorf, 31, apologised after The Times reported that she had labelled a Twitter follower a “hairy barren lesbian” and boasted that she wanted to “gay bash” a television star.

Trans activist in homophobic slur. Who would be shocked at that.

Vetting is good Labour. It would have stopped the mess that is Jared O'Mara too.
Being sacked very publicly by L'Oreal, may have been a clue.

But oh they are trendy cool and representative.

Get rid. Know a liability when you see a liability. Also have a look at that women's office who is doing the same shit.

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2018 07:55

What I get caught saying privately is in no way reflective of my views. I am just as insensitive, rude, sexist and homophobic now but I present it publicly in a different way by harping on about intersectionality so I look clever with no irony whatsoever.

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YippeeKiYayMelonFarmer · 05/03/2018 09:37

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RedToothBrush · 05/03/2018 09:45

They still had credibility before this?

We've already had Brendan Cox and the dual standards.

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2018 09:45

And Jared O'Mara.

How many more incidents do we need?

Wanderingwomb · 05/03/2018 09:57

I'm glad I grew up without my every fart needing documenting on line. But if Labour insist on hiring people whose usp is social media, then that person has to be accountable for their social media.

RedToothBrush · 05/03/2018 14:42

If you know there is something you tweeted in the past that you know to be offensive and you are remotely thinking about taking a public role, or a job sensitive to what you might have posted in the past on social media then, deleting it would be a wise move.

And you don't do that like Toby Young AFTER the fact, you do it, BEFORE you decide to make a name for yourself.

If you are making a name for yourself off the back of such comments then you absolutely should be hung out to dry for them.

Its not just that these people make the comments in the first place, its that they continue to have no shame nor responsibility for those messages which they have the ability to remove.

HelenaDove · 06/03/2018 01:45

Ah Grazia...................the gift that keeps on giving.

twitter.com/i/moments/970765883894353921

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Italiangreyhound · 06/03/2018 03:27

Twitter is the gift, to the rest of us. It tells us what is really going on in people's heads, it's like the mind-reading gift!

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