This woman is all of us.

[CAAKE]

Lily Madigan speaking to a rapt audience at an Enfield North CLP meeting.

Photo is from this tweet -
twitter.com/enfieldnorthclp/status/964240546977013760

I love this comment on the Twitter feed:

"They really shouldn’t have shared that picture. It’s hardly a ringing endorsement of Lily’s public speaking skills. Two of them look like they’re actually crying."

He feels 'sad' when he sees an all woman panel? How about FUCKING AMAZED because I don't think I have ever seen an all woman panel in the Labour party.

No, I think he means when the women on a panel are all 'cis' rather than an all woman panel iyswim? Given that trans women make up a tiny minority of the population there is absolutely no need to have a trans woman 'representing women' on every single political panel.

But I thought transwomen were women? If that is case then aren't those women speaking for Lily? Or is there something different about Lily we should know about?

Yes Ova, but real women can't possibly know what it feels like to be a trans woman.
Yet men seem to know exactly how it feels to be a woman.

When Lily is the first trans Prime Minister, that audience will look back and remember how they were mesmerised by his charisma at that meeting.

(I'd have put the chairs in a circle though Lily, and abandoned the table, more inclusive and less preachy like, innit.)

The only time the Labour party will have 'all women' panels would be if they were all TIMs.

I always want to ask the handmaidens- if 50% of positions go to men, and the other 50% to TIMs- would they regard that as adequate female representation?

Erm, I'm a bit unsure about the OP, having one woman circled. Would be mortified if it was me, especially considering the tactics of TRAs...
It's a glorious photo, I think we need it in full!

See the post at 08:37:26 this morning.

"transmisogyny" is a wonderful term I hadn't heard before but perfectly sums up so many concerns.

I always want to ask the handmaidens- if 50% of positions go to men, and the other 50% to TIMs- would they regard that as adequate female representation?

I've tried this. They never answer.

Every day that Labour allow this misogynistic boy to remain in post is another day that they display their utter contempt for women.

Transmisogyny actually better describes TRAs’ attitude towards women than attitudes towards TIMs, which is more likely to be homophobia due to them stepping outside of rigid norms for male presentation/behaviour.

I love that comment:
Sadness when I see all-cis women in politics panels

What size is the transgender community in the UK?

So to be truly representative, how big would that panel have to be???

Miranda Yardley is playing a blinder and she's got the Labour Party by the balls.

Jennifer James got suspended for saying and tweeting what exactly?
Why hasn't Miranda Yardley been suspended for doing the same thing?

Miranda spent the other night tweeting "X is a man".

The whole point is, how do you explain some who is trans being suspended for being er.... transphobic.

And if that's the case, how do you explain why you have suspended someone else for doing the exact same thing?

The obvious and only answer is because there is institutionalised sexism.

Labour have tied themselves up in knots over it. Enfield Labour walked straight into it, and proved just how little they respect and respect both women and members of the trans community itself.

That's epic.

They also show the exact problem of wilful blindness when it comes to safeguarding. The fact someone is known to be trans gives a privilege which others are not able to challenge.

As for the photo they all look bored shitless and unimpressed.

Why is that good for publicity?

Every day that Labour allow this misogynistic boy to remain in post is another day that they display their utter contempt for women.

I'd like to know his parents' role in all this, tbh.

I don't blame the parents. Adults are responsible for their own bullshit.

My understanding is that his family are not very sympathetic.

Transgender women ARE women

Either you can't grasp basic biology or you are so deeply sexist and stupid you believe putting a dress on and lippy transforms a man a woman. Well girl actually. Because that's what he's impersonating isn't he, a cutesy vulnerable little girl.

Go and put a gorilla costume on and see if it makes you a gorilla.

Madigans parents are horrible transphobes, as is madigans brother, and Madigan is nocontact with all of them. Whilst somehow living in the same house afaik...?

I saw Lily said on that Twitter post that she is autistic which probably explains a lot about her. The unquestioned push to trans autistic young people really concerns me .

Every time someone has a dig at Liam Madigan he says he suffers with something or another. He'll run out of lies soon the little twat.

I'm dubious, but it's possible. There's a bit of a trend atm to self ID as "autistic", running concurrently with the self ID to change sex...

I don't feel comfortable about the way this young man is spoken about. He is clearly annoying and extraordinarily self centred. But the attacks on him do no one any favours. He is being used by politicians to try to make themselves look woke (hope I've used the word correctly!) and older politicians should have stood up to this and had a bit more about them.
Making it so personal takes the focus from the real issue.
The autism connection with trans people is a case in point. I have not seen the research anywhere but googled "autism and trans" (in a rush, sorry!) and a mumsnet thread was the third result.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3089956-Autism-and-Trans

I don't blame the parents. Adults are responsible for their own bullshit.

Maybe, but somewhere along the line he's learnt that Little Liam can have whatever he wants and woe betide anyone who says "no" to him.

There is undeniably a lot of young people with autism who are finding the trans narrative a way to rationalise their challenges with understanding gender expectations and stereotypes, feeling socially alienated and uncomfortable with their body and sensory systems. Body dysmorphia in all kinds is hard for teens, especially those with the sensory and neuro challenges of autism.

However there has been concern voiced about autism being seen as 'just another identity' and the trans community self identifying as autistic rather than being diagnosed. That is rocky territory.

L, if you are the really real kind of autistic, perhaps you should try reading the tale of the boy who cried wolf