Jeremy Corbyn has a new enemy - Mumsnet

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I’ve learned that there are some brilliant, learned and compassionate people out there, who come at this from all angles. One (purely anecdotal) observation is that the diversity of opinions within the trans-gender population is not remotely reflected in the bit of this conversation most visible at Westminster. The trans community’s opinions are not as homogenous as some reporting and discussion suggest. So here’s a tip for hacks covering this: don’t just book Paris Lees or talk about Lilly Madigan. Ask Kristina Harrison what she thinks. Or Tara Hewitt. Or lots of other people. The same goes for the ‘radical’ feminist side of this: there’s more to it than Germaine Greer. (Though for some media outlets that really should know better, having any voice from that side of the conversation at all would be an improvement.)

I'm appalled about the idea 14 year olds could get puberty blockers.

Sterilising children - many of whom may have eventually come out as gay, given time - is eugenics. Pure and simple. Eugenics is happening within our health and education systems.

it's nothing less than an outrage. What's the cooling off period for a 10 year old deciding they want puberty blockers?

Sorry I mis-remembered.

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1 and 2 were give money (and the guilt trip was in 2) - 3 was protest women talking about themselves, 4 read (and pay for) a zine, 5 pay trans people to join your panels/whatever you can think of to pay them for, then finally at 6 we get to 'be nice to us, cook us dinner, invite us to parties'

It's interesting, the priorities, when compared to other groups.

I do wonder whether Corbyn is thinking of the old school transexuals and just thinks things should be fair for them, not realising how much things have changed?

Look, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool, old school leftie and there is nothing more I would like to believe than that Jeremy Corbyn does not understand the issues. But that would just be me fooling myself about the Dear Leader.

Dear Leader understands the issues. Dear Leader is not a child. Dear Leader has made a political calculation that Labour needs the youth vote and the student activism more than it needs women.

It's that simple.

Let's just hope that Dear Leader is currently being disabused of the notion that this was the correct calculation to make.

Grifters gonna grift! The first TRA I encountered doesn't seem to have ever had a job, because working is against his principles and also you owe him, cis scum!

Have any lawyers/law professors spoken about self identification and the issues that can arise? Surely they must have been consulted?

I think this is part of the problem Bloom.

There are organisations dedicated to legal support (and other active lobbying) for trans people and advancing their rights. Quite fairly, that's their concern.

But there is no one actively doing this for biological women where trans interests may differ from theirs. And when women's orgs, including women's rights orgs, are told they have to be trans inclusive - both to gain funding and to avoid being called 'transphobic' - they aren't able to freely represent the rights of biological women.

So for example have a look at this video arguing for sports rights and fair play. No idea if it's accurate but it does make me wonder who is arguing for fair play for biological women at Olympic level?

Like any sex based difference imbalance of legal representation can only be observed if it remains visible in law. How will it do so with self-ID?

Sorry lost video link here it is: m.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDhU-tgxxU

Loving your work James.

And that of mumsnet obv

Why no law-people fighting this?
Threat of disciplinary action by their professional body if there is evidence of 'transphobia'. Who of us would risk that?

There has actually been a post on Twitter this week by the head of my professional body urging people to report concerns about members in relation to this.

Updating your gender to no longer be considered (.....) grounds for a celebrant to refuse to marry someone

Fucking. Hell.

What are they suggesting here? How the fucking hell does this nut propose to force someone to marry against their will and think this is anything less than medieval? This is a demand for state enforced abuse of women. Utterly derranged.

Myunicorn that line is saying that a priest or equivalent cannot refuse to marry a transgender couple, not force someone into a marriage with a transgender individual.

Interestingly no Transman priests the men also block Transmen inheriting in certain circumstances.

Winefred seriously? Concerns about the catch all 'transphobia'? Or specifically about women's rights?

I'm still bewildered that Labour have got this so spectacularly wrong. I've voted Labour since I was 18. I am 54 now. I will never, ever vote Labour again.

Why no law-people fighting this?

Threat of disciplinary action by their professional body if there is evidence of 'transphobia'. Who of us would risk that?

A high profile QC donated to the GoFundMe to challenge self-IDing transwomen on all-women shortlists and as soon as he realised this might see him get labelled as "transphobic", on went the hair shirt and out came the request for forgiveness.

Professional people in many domains see the transgender issue as a reef on which their careers could founder.

Everyonematters - "Winefred seriously? Concerns about the catch all 'transphobia'? Or specifically about women's rights?"

He used the word "equality". The context makes clear what it is about. [Sorry can't be more specific - I don't want to be outed].

Totally understand need to be cautious Winefred, sorry for asking.

everyone winefred thank you. What a ridiculous situation

[busyboysmum] Listen to Tara fucking Hewitt ? Are you having a laugh?

Yes, the Tara Hewitt bit jarred. Hewitt is possibly more of a misogynist than Lees.

I was just quoting the article Bela. I've no idea who Tara Hewitt is.

Tara Hewitt is a trans identified male 'equality trainer', is anti choice and anti lesbians accessing fertility treatments.

Changing your legal gender, destroying previous records - why, it's like a sex offender's wish list

If you think that the eradication of women as a biological category is a miniscule problem, then there is no arguing with you. Seriously, have you read anything about this at all?

I think it's even more fundamental than this

I think it's a problem where men are [once again] telling women who & what they are. They see the category of "woman" not as a fully human half of the human race. They don't regard women as fully human. They regard the category of "Woman" as an empty space which they can control and define.

It's worse than erasure: it's an indication that some MRAs (hiding as TRAs) don't see us as existing at all.

Dear Leader understands the issues. Dear Leader is not a child. Dear Leader has made a political calculation that Labour needs the youth vote and the student activism more than it needs women.

If he want someone to show up to a protest hung over fair enough. If he wants someone to vote that's another story.