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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman's Place UK meeting in London, 27 Feb

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PlonitbatPlonit · 05/02/2018 21:52

Just announced on their twitter and Facebook, Woman's Place UK are doing a meeting in London. If it's anything like the Bristol event it will sell out....

www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-making-a-stand-tickets-42865237078

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PlonitbatPlonit · 21/02/2018 18:40

I knew this was going to be big, but I didn't realise how big - apparently more than 300 tickets booked according to Woman's Place UK twitter.... really excited now www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/a-womans-place-is-making-a-stand-tickets-42865237078

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OOAOML · 21/02/2018 19:02

The protesters at the Edinburgh one looked intimidating and were background noise, but that was about it for me. Met other MNers and arrived at the venue when protesters were just starting to gather, then afterwards walked out and past them (had found a MNer going in my direction so gave each other moral support) and that was all. They were chanting and bashing pots etc but nothing more. Covering their faces made the photos look really intimidating but I barely registered their appearance as I left as we were past them so quickly.

PlonitbatPlonit · 21/02/2018 19:23

And remember, there will be very very many more of you than there are of them (if there are any of them!)

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Ouchbirthhurted · 21/02/2018 19:46

This whole thing is going to be fucking HUGE if our MPs don't get their act together.

Everyone I have explained the basics to can see it is batshit crazy. And I am telling everyone. And so are they.

BeUpStanding · 21/02/2018 19:59

I've been thinking about how we can arrange to meet up... Ideally we would just agree a pub here, but because the world's gone mad we probably shouldn't announce the location publically.

Only way I can think is for someone to choose a pub and then tell everyone on the thread via PM. It's not very democratic, and it risks missing people who lurk, but I suppose the alternative risk is TRAs disturbing our sherry drinking Hmm.

So we could do that now, or wait until the venue is announced. Thoughts?

MyTerfNeedsRolling · 21/02/2018 22:59

I have booked a ticket and would love to meet up with MNers. The Cambridge meeting was fab and this looks huge!
I wonder if a possibility would be for the organisers to suggest a meeting point for us when they email ticket holders about the venue? Plonitbatplonit what do you think? Maybe someone could suggest a pub and you could mention it as being a Mumsnet meeting point? Obviously I dont want to add to your workload!

MyBeloved · 21/02/2018 23:23

I am unable to go due to health issues, but thank all of you for attending and making womens voices heard.

Datun · 22/02/2018 10:13

The problem with deciding a meeting place via PM is that anyone can PM someone. Including a TRA.

When this has happened before, a person sending a PM and asking for the venue would have to have a posting history that demonstrated their allegiance.

Which, in turn, involves one person being responsible for checking everyone's posting history and making a judgement.

I, personally, don't mind a pub being nominated on here. There are enough women who are going. Safety in numbers and all that.

But I totally understand others who would rather it was kept secret.

It's difficult to cater to everyone.

I also think that the pub should be as close to the venue as possible. So waiting for the venue to be announced would be a good idea.

HexeSauerkraut · 22/02/2018 10:26

Wish I could make it.

LittleLebowski · 22/02/2018 10:29

How about making a central station a meeting point and then deciding from there? Public space, lots of security anyway?

TheGoodEnoughWife · 22/02/2018 10:40

I have booked a ticket and would like to meet up beforehand. If a busy station was suggested to meet beforehand then that would be okay? Safety in numbers and all that.

I am bit concerned about leaving afterwards but hopefully will have made a friend by then!

DjunaBarnes · 22/02/2018 11:21

booked! more than 300 tickets sold, this is amazing, I don't think i've heard of a non-mainstream-political-party meeting that large since the anti-apartite organising meetings in the 80s.

JaimesGoldenHand · 22/02/2018 12:47

Let's have an identifier in any case so at least we can approach each other when we're there. Could we make badges out of the MN logo?

BeUpStanding · 22/02/2018 12:55

Datun speaks sense as always! Grin

Ok let's wait until the venue is announced and then decide on here where to meet.

Jaines I was planning on carrying a multipack of Pom Bears Bear

morningrunner · 22/02/2018 14:06

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Datun · 23/02/2018 10:34

I've been thinking about this.

The email that one generally gets over these meetings quite clearly says not to share the information.

Obviously, people are trying to protect the integrity of the meeting, as well as reduce any possible risk.

But, as we all know, unless we stand up about this and don't bow to pressure of transactivists, nothing will get changed.

So here is the dilemma.

We will get an email confirming the venue. People want to meet up.
I now think that posting a nearby pub would be detrimental. To both the venue, and the fact that it would become public information. These threads are open to anyone.

We don't have to make it easy for transactivists.

I'm happy to take a dirty big pom bear/penis beaker/naice ham sign with me to the meeting and hold it up before it starts so we can all meet. Actually in the meeting.

But in terms of being able to tell everybody the same pub, I think that's going to be tricky unless someone (or two people) are happy to volunteer as a point of contact via PM.

It means trying to vet the person who asks you where venue/pub is.

Checking their posting history to make sure they're not a) really new, and b) have demonstrable content on their posting that shows they are 'like-minded' and not chancers taking the piss.

Which will, sometimes, mean that the point of contact has to say I'm terribly sorry, I hope you understand, but I can't tell you.

I think most people understand why that might happen.

And I certainly don't think we should ever disclose the actual venue.

We are being asked not to, and need to respect that.

And finally, I don't want to volunteer as the point of contact!!

So maybe a couple of people will?

The more people who volunteer as a point of contact, who themselves have a posting history (and are therefore beyond reproach) the less work it will be for one person.

I desperately don't want to have anyone left out, whilst at the same time, I know just how sneaky transactivists can be.

thaigreen · 23/02/2018 10:52

I'm going. I don't post much on mumsnet but these threads have been my radical feminist awakening! This will be my first political meeting since a student labour rally 25 years ago. Would also like to meet up afterwards. Could we have the venue annouced at the meeting or are TRAs in the meeting a concern?

SweetGrapes · 23/02/2018 10:59

Am going too. Hope to meet some of you... am not very chatty though...

SweetGrapes · 23/02/2018 11:04

Happy to meet up and PM people beforehand.

Haven't changed my name for years so if people are comfortable pm-ing me, I will reply back if I am also comfortable. And we can arrange to meet at a central pub and hope it's not a mad dash to the venue.

Can't organise for everyone but maybe we can get a few meetup points going.

AstraiaLiberty · 23/02/2018 11:10

I completely understand your concerns, Datun, and agree with not giving out details of the venue itself.

I know that in my case, while I'd love to meet other Mumsnet feminists, the primary reason for wanting a meetup beforehand is so that we can go into the meeting together. It's sensible to assume that transactivists will somehow get knowledge of the venue details and there will be a protestor presence outside. Some of us are a bit apprehensive about walking past them alone - it'd feel much safer in a group. So meeting up inside the venue wouldn't really help there.

Perhaps it'd be possible to arrange a meeting in a central London pub before the venue is announced - that way we're not giving anyone any clues that would compromise the integrity of the meeting, and the venue itself should be easily reachable by tube or bus from a central location.

Datun · 23/02/2018 11:16

That's fantastic SweetGrapes.

If one or two other people could also volunteer as the point of contact, then the three of you can decide on a pub. And people can PM you. Spreading the load, as it were.

I'm sure security is going to be tight at the actual venue. But yes, going in groups is definitely preferable.

Nightmanagerfan · 23/02/2018 11:29

I’ve just booked and would love to say hello to fellow MNetters

TheGoodEnoughWife · 23/02/2018 12:06

A pub a few tube stops away would work? Quick to get there but not outing for the actual place?

Chocolatecake84 · 23/02/2018 12:08

Booked. I don't post much here either but these threads have been my radfem awakening too. Looking forward to meeting some of you.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 23/02/2018 12:19

Meeting at Speakers Corner wasn't meant to compromise the integrity of that meeting. People there for the meeting were given the location on bits of paper & the idea was that we'd all slip away quietly, but the TRAs still turned up there & tried to follow / intimidate us. I think if they knew MNers were going to be gathering at a specific place & going to the meeting from there, it would be very easy for them to use that information.

The quieter we can keep things the better, really.

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