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Break it down for me?

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TortiousTortoise · 20/01/2018 22:16

Hi all, I am fairly new to the discussion on the impact that transwomen are having on women generally and I want to more fully understand the issues (been trying to talk to my husband about it and am struggling to articulate it).

I feel so awkward writing about this as I definitely don't want to come across as sounding horrible about transpeople, I just want to understand.

Also there are a lot of acronyms being thrown about. Can anyone help me out?

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soberodent · 12/05/2021 15:27

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Helleofabore · 12/05/2021 15:47

And the live demonstration continues.

Thanks.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/05/2021 17:05

Thanks for bumping this important thread which has benefited so many on FWR and informed many lurkers, soberodent!

Leafstamp · 12/05/2021 19:33

Yep, always good to have this important thread bumped.

I notice soberodent repeatedly (8 times in a row?!) posted against Talk guidelines, that's not good.

1WayOrAnother2 · 13/05/2021 09:11

Thankyou for this!

Helleofabore · 18/05/2021 18:45

bumpity bump

Helleofabore · 19/05/2021 11:13

Thanks to DrSbaitso for posting this thread recently. I am parking it here so people can see that gay men have been discussing the incursion into their space for years as well.

www.datalounge.com/thread/22392276-trans-man-kicked-out-of-london-gay-sauna-for-not-having-a-penis

LangClegsInSpace · 20/05/2021 22:18

Just cross posting my recommendation that everyone who can afford £8 should invest in both volumes of Pressing Matters by Christine Burns.

How 'transvestite' and 'transsexual' got smerged together into 'trans' - and why:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4248152-A-message-from-a-trans-friend-International-Day-Against-Homophobia-Transphobia-and-Biphobia?msgid=107525644

How Press For Change ran the Hayley Cropper character in Coronation Street:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4248152-A-message-from-a-trans-friend-International-Day-Against-Homophobia-Transphobia-and-Biphobia?msgid=107530473

I can honestly say these are among the most informative books I have ever read. Get the kindle version so can follow the links, which are even more informative.

stonecat · 20/05/2021 22:38

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LangClegsInSpace · 20/05/2021 23:50

Test bump.

I suspect this thread is being hidden not only from 'trending' and 'active', but also from FWR. If you've found your way here without following a link from another thread then please say 'aye'.

Thelnebriati · 21/05/2021 00:02

Test bump

LangClegsInSpace · 21/05/2021 00:04

@Helleofabore

bumpity bump
Bumpity bump appears to have no effect on this thread. It remains invisible.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4250590-FWR-has-the-Break-it-down-for-me-thread-been-hidden

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/05/2021 00:10

It's come up in FWR for me just now

Apileofballyhoo · 21/05/2021 00:23

Test bump. Found it on the second page of Feminism chat, it should have been high up on the first with such a recent post before mine.

Apileofballyhoo · 21/05/2021 00:26

It didn't bump from my post, still on the second page. It's like Twitter deleting my likes on JKR tweets. Hmmm.

Whymrsrobinson · 21/05/2021 07:45

Bookmarking

Helleofabore · 21/05/2021 08:11

Well that is strange. And new.

I wonder if it has been well intentioned to keep it out of the sight of people with well oiled reporting fingers who went on sprees recently or to keep it out of their way for comments after soberrodent spammed it with te*f pigs graphics.

Because bumping worked before the soberrodent invasion if I remember correctly. Hence why I did it.

stonecat · 21/05/2021 09:02

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OhHolyJesus · 21/05/2021 09:14

Aye

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2021 09:34

aye

StevenTechMumsnet · 21/05/2021 20:34

Hi, we had a technical fault that was causing some threads to not appear on lists for some users while they did for others. It should all be OK now. Apologies for the confusion.

StevenTechMumsnet · 21/05/2021 20:54

Ahem

Helleofabore · 21/05/2021 21:49

Yes Steven. Ahem is probably right. Whatever you fixed might need further tweaks?

Helleofabore · 21/05/2021 21:51

Oh yay, it worked. Just not for Steven’s post. Weird. But thanks Steven.

Helleofabore · 21/05/2021 21:53

No. Gone again.

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