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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Wrong side of history

514 replies

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 16:35

Here is something I know to be true: those campaigning against trans rights will fail. Your money will be raised and spent and wasted. Your legal challenges will not succeed. Your relentless attempts to do injustice will fail. You are on the wrong side of history. Your children will grow up knowing better than you. You cannot stop progress. Your efforts are in vain.

And every time I'm proven right - every time a court judgment goes against you and every time a law protecting trans men and women is passed and every time equality is further enshrined in the laws of this country I am going to return to this thread for the pure and petty purpose of telling you I TOLD YOU SO.

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BeeInMyBonnet1985 · 15/01/2018 18:08

I'm calling bullshit on Lyra being a woman, even a very handmaiden-y one. I recognise these very male patterns of speech from many online interactions with enraged TRAs.

Seconded. 'Lyra Potter'? Really? Was Katniss Malfoy already taken? Or Hermione Belacqua?

EamonnWright · 15/01/2018 18:09

Seconded. 'Lyra Potter'? Really? Was Katniss Malfoy already taken? Or Hermione Belacqua

Well he obviously believes in fantasy so...

AnotherQuoll · 15/01/2018 18:10

Started early? Or still going from last night.

QueenOfTheAndals · 15/01/2018 18:10

@BeeInMyBonnet1985 I noticed that too 😂

MisDescamisados · 15/01/2018 18:11

Of course Lyra applauds someone who opposes abortion rights but is vaguely positive over self ID .
Transwoman will never need an abortion and indeed , some think needing one -in the first place - is cis privilege .

Lyra , if you’re female , then ask yourself why you align with the Christaliban ?

Because , as the saying goes , if you tolerate this , then your children will be next .
Why do you hate the children ?

Agerbilatemycardigan · 15/01/2018 18:14

Guess what Lyra

When all of this is done and dusted, and for the sake of argument, natal women lose this battle, transwomen will still be no further forward.

The very second that you are seen as actual women, that is the moment that you realise what a monumental mistake you've made.

Womb transplants - great, now you too can be treated like cattle and patronised by medical professionals who ignore your post-natal medical needs - suck it up. You chose to have a baby.

Jobs - congratulations, you too can be paid less than you're worth. I mean, you're a woman now so will probably go on maternity leave anyway. No point in promoting you.

Opinions - they don't actually count now. Men talk louder and their opinions matter more than yours so go and make the tea.

Well done.

SimonBridges · 15/01/2018 18:14

The campaign isn't against trans rights. The campaign is to protect women's rights.

This. 100 x this.

I don’t care about what HIStory will say. I know that someone with a penis isn’t a woman. It’s as simple as that.

This isn’t like gay rights or racial rights.
When gay people got the right to get married or black people got the right to be treated as equal NO ONE ELSE LOST ANYTHING.

But it's just delicious to watch you all wriggle with excitement about a sum of money which you'll soon realise isn't enough to get you within 100 yards of a courtroom door.
This is just unpleasant and frankly a little bit pervy.

QueenLaBeefah · 15/01/2018 18:22

I'm campaigning for women's rights.

In the future I will be able to look my granddaughters in the eyes and tell them I tried my best.

Twunk · 15/01/2018 18:22

I am very comfortable with my decision to support this cause, and very encouraged that it is all small amounts given by lots of different people. Women do not give up fights because we may lose - we are braver and stronger than you can ever imagine.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 15/01/2018 18:27

I've spent 53 years being belittled, abused and sidelined because I was born female. I'll be damned if I'll let that happen to my daughters and my granddaughter.

Do your fucking worst. If nothing else, I'll go down fighting.

Ereshkigal · 15/01/2018 18:30

Surely it must be time for that cake to be iced??

So many cakes, so little time... 🎂

Datun · 15/01/2018 18:32

Lyra is well and truly rattled by the thousands of pounds that have been raised in 24 hours. By women everywhere who are waiting for payday to donate a precious £5 that they can ill afford.

So they have come on here with the most ridiculous, juvenile, goady post possible.

The sole reason is to antagonise. To grab screenshots of women going off alarming.

Too bad that they are failing quite spectacularly.

Just more reasoned, logical, evidence-based rebuttal.

Lyra only has the transactivist hymnbook from which to sing. So they expected a transactivist-esque reaction.

Instead of which they are frantically reading through each post, gutted that there is nothing violent or crazy.

Dream on Lyra.

Women are taking care of women.

Ereshkigal · 15/01/2018 18:33

I think Lyra is a woman. Because if you advance search (I haven't but saw a post she made in another section the other day) you'll see she does believe in biology for some things. Either that or there's going to be one very disappointed TIM.

RebelRogue · 15/01/2018 18:35
Grin
Wrong side of history
bambambini · 15/01/2018 18:37

The narcissistic rage is strong in this one...

Lol - Can just imagine Lyra sitting reading the thread with the Janet Mock fury - that anger/rage you often see in Janet’s eyes - even though Janet’s trying to cover it up with a sweet but all knowing feminine smile. 🤗

Vango · 15/01/2018 18:38

Considering the current state of female representation in the UK judicial system you may very well be right Lyra. But for the wrong reasons.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/law/2015/sep/22/gender-equality-warning-uk-legal-profession-supreme-court-judge-jonathan-sumption

Datun · 15/01/2018 18:38

Lyra has been reigning it in all over the feminist boards for weeks.

Unfortunately for them, we see it.

Now the mask has dropped, quite spectacularly.

Like it always, always does.

I just hope they never play poker, they'd be crap at it.

Fekko · 15/01/2018 18:40

Lyra is no feminist. He/she/it/doo-dah is fighting in the male corner.

Datun · 15/01/2018 18:44

Lyra

Instead of venting your spleen on here, why don't you copy and paste that OP on AIBU?

If you're so convinced that we are on the wrong side of history, why don't you tell that to the 12 million unique users on mumsnet, where there is the greatest traffic?

Put your money where your mouth is.

BelaLugosisShed · 15/01/2018 18:47

Yep, ‘Lyra’s’ slip is well and truly showing.

Sad really.

Agerbilatemycardigan · 15/01/2018 18:49

Maybe she knows that her money isn't worth the paper it's printed on Datun

Datun · 15/01/2018 18:53

All mouth and no trousers. Ironically.

genehuntswife · 15/01/2018 18:54

Just donated in honour of Lyra

NKFell · 15/01/2018 18:59

It's so sad that people would find it funny or good that women's rights are disappearing.

It doesn't even rattle anger with me anymore, it genuinely just makes me sad.

DistaffSide · 15/01/2018 19:01

Every time I hear 'wrong side of history'. I think 'Paedophile Information Exchange'.

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