Wrong side of history

[LyraPotter]

Here is something I know to be true: those campaigning against trans rights will fail. Your money will be raised and spent and wasted. Your legal challenges will not succeed. Your relentless attempts to do injustice will fail. You are on the wrong side of history. Your children will grow up knowing better than you. You cannot stop progress. Your efforts are in vain.

And every time I'm proven right - every time a court judgment goes against you and every time a law protecting trans men and women is passed and every time equality is further enshrined in the laws of this country I am going to return to this thread for the pure and petty purpose of telling you I TOLD YOU SO.

And I cannot understand why @LyraPotter you don't campaign for representatives who are trans in parliament rather than adding transwomen to women only shortlists. Trans people need representation; including trans men, who get completely ignored. Women still need a massive push for representation as well. So keep the AWS and campaign for better representation of trans people.

Rights for everyone. Not fighting over the scraps while while men still hog all the power.

Lyra - are you happy when Lily Madigan applauds Anne Milton, the new Minister for Women, simply because she once said something supportive about self ID, even though she opposes abortion rights.

Lyra - are you happy that there are women out there who can't get treatment for mental health conditions because during in-patient treatment, they were on a ward with a transwoman who triggered their manic state because the transwoman is, and will always remain male-bodied, and yet it is the woman who is marginalised by being accused of transphobia by her mental health nurse?

If that's the right side of history, count me out.

Misogyny in action

Ohhhhh, this is a TAAT. Ah well.

You don't answer anything do you
Like what rights trans people don't have
Why wanting womens rights is wrong
You are just like a MRA
Im happy to donate even if the challenge doesn't get there or looses. Just so people can see how women are feeling
But you don't care about biological women do you

Bless, half-term already?

I'm off to donate another tenner in your name Lyra.

it's just delicious to watch you all wriggle with excitement

I'm calling bullshit on Lyra being a woman, even a very handmaiden-y one. I recognise these very male patterns of speech from many online interactions with enraged TRAs.

pfox.org/Shame-Rage.pdf

www.gofundme.com/fighting-for-female-representatives

:)

Surely it must be time for that cake to be iced??

What a very sneery post, Lyra.

Why? Why is it so important to you that women should not have a right to privacy and choice, and that shortlists to redress the balance of the sexes should be opened to both sexes? I don't get it.

Any chance you could trouble yourself to answer my questions, Lyra? Or are you here just to be obnoxious?

When did I say I wasn't bothered? Of course I'm bothered. I also happen to think racists are on the wrong side of history and will eventually be condemned by all but that doesn't mean I'm happy just to sit and twiddle my thumbs about it now

So what are you actually going to do about it?

I also happen to think racists are on the wrong side of history

I take it you're ok with Rachel Dolezal identifying as black then? Because if transgender is ok then why not transracial? In fact why not let white students identify as black and apply for scholarships etc that have been set up to get more BAME kids into university?

But Lyra - it won't need to go to court. AWS operate on the basis of a very specific exemption in EA2010. They can only be utilised for people who are legally women - that is to say, women and male holders of a GRC. An AWS on the basis of self declaration is illegal.

It'll only need a warning letter. And even with sky high legal costs, you can buy more than one of those with £12k.

The Labour Party will either have to back down from self declaration for AWS or abandon them altogether.

MrsTP This is what always gets me, why aren't they campaigning for trans only shortlists? Especially as that way transmen/TIFs would get some representation.

I'm calling bullshit on Lyra being a woman, even a very handmaiden-y one. I recognise these very male patterns of speech from many online interactions with enraged TRAs.

Agreed, hence the bro in my response.

Lyra said TERF .
Lyra - with a thought terminating cliché, has proven what a bag os spite , slogan , and fragile entitlement Lyra is .

Shall we play Lyra bingo ?

TranswomenRwoman
True authentic self
Transphobiaaaaa
Bigot
Sex is a social construct
My penis is female
Respect my identity

Please feel free to add .

See , we can all do scorn , but some of us can walk that walk , as well .

Yes, I thought that too Guardians.

Sure. You're not bothered at all, are ya, Lyra?

Agreed DonkeySkin hence my pp.

This is what always gets me, why aren't they campaigning for trans only shortlists? Especially as that way transmen/TIFs would get some representation.

Because they actually, truly, genuinely, believe that transmen have male privilege. From the moment they declare a trans identity.

I. Kid. You. Not.

I'm actually hoping to see that total rise, because the more TERF money that gets wasted the happier I am

That is very interesting thanks for sharing. If you are happy with rapists in women's prisons and sterilising children then that is your decision to make. Me - I'm happy to donate to prevent this. I am comfortable with my position.

People who support sterilising non gender conforming children and breaking human rights legislation are on the Right wing side of history.

Well, I know the sun is always over the yard arm somewhere, but LyraPotter clearly started VERY early with that OP!

Bless him and his funny little comments.

Lyra is clearly too busy with their time travel to answer our queries, given that they know what will happen in the future.

Just imagine all the good causes Lyra will be able to support knowing next week's lottery numbers.