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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Wrong side of history

514 replies

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 16:35

Here is something I know to be true: those campaigning against trans rights will fail. Your money will be raised and spent and wasted. Your legal challenges will not succeed. Your relentless attempts to do injustice will fail. You are on the wrong side of history. Your children will grow up knowing better than you. You cannot stop progress. Your efforts are in vain.

And every time I'm proven right - every time a court judgment goes against you and every time a law protecting trans men and women is passed and every time equality is further enshrined in the laws of this country I am going to return to this thread for the pure and petty purpose of telling you I TOLD YOU SO.

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SimonBridges · 15/01/2018 19:01

Can some please post or pm me a link to the go fund me page?

Beachcomber · 15/01/2018 19:03

Women are used to being erased from history.

Being on the wrong side of male dominated history would be progress. Count me in.

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AskBasil · 15/01/2018 19:03

Have you told the men on Reddit, Twitter, etc. Lyra?

Have you told straight men that they are transphobes if they don't want to fuck transwomen?

Let's see what response you get from them.

They've got more money than women. They can raise loads more than we can for a legal challenge.

Datun · 15/01/2018 19:04

Every time I hear 'wrong side of history'. I think 'Paedophile Information Exchange'.

Yup. Along with lobotomies, recovered memory syndrome and the Orkney child abuse scandal.

Datun · 15/01/2018 19:06

SimonBridges

We are not allowed to post a direct link. But if you google go fund me and Jennifer James you will get it.

It's nearly up to £13,000. All from a fiver here and a tenner there.

EamonnWright · 15/01/2018 19:08

Every time I hear 'wrong side of history'. I think 'Paedophile Information Exchange

Quite. The infiltration of gay groups and left wing organisations. Then ease things in such as that wee boy in drag I seen the other day. Condemnation of which was shouted down by Gay magazine 'Out'.

www.out.com/out-exclusives/2018/1/11/these-drag-kids-are-proving-its-never-too-soon-be-fabulous

Dafuq is this madness Hmm

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 19:08

Obviously I'm not replying to your posts individually, there are literally a hundred of you and one of me Hmm but being one of a crowd on MN (one of the most right wing and reactionary sites on the internet...) doesn't make you right. You're a majority on here but a real world minority, a tragic outpost of the seventies becoming increasingly agitated in the face of your growing irrelevance. Transphobia is a dying art and you're struggling to find young people to carry your flag forward. In a hundred years time, when trans men and women are no longer discriminated against and abused and oppressed, your descendants will wonder how you could ever have thought the way you did.

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coldcanary · 15/01/2018 19:08

This thread has done a positive thing for me at least - it’s payday (finally!) and donating was the thing I meant to do today and completely forgot in the usual Monday rush of kids, school run and work so thanks OP!!

ATeardropExplodes · 15/01/2018 19:09

Oh Lyra Potter you old stooze. Looks like you donated yourself. Wink

guardianfree · 15/01/2018 19:09

Great latest donation - who knew that they cared so much Grin

ATeardropExplodes · 15/01/2018 19:11

Transphobia is a dying art and you're struggling to find young people to carry your flag forward. In a hundred years time, when trans men and women are no longer discriminated against and abused and oppressed, your descendants will wonder how you could ever have thought the way you did.

In 100 years time, babies will still be made using SPERM and EGGS from Men and Women. Hope that helps.

guardianfree · 15/01/2018 19:11

Mumsnet - one of the most right wing and reactionary sites on the internet

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

EamonnWright · 15/01/2018 19:11

Obviously I'm not replying to your posts individually, there are literally a hundred of you and one of me hmm but being one of a crowd on MN (one of the most right wing and reactionary sites on the internet...) doesn't make you right. You're a majority on here but a real world minority, a tragic outpost of the seventies becoming increasingly agitated in the face of your growing irrelevance. Transphobia is a dying art and you're struggling to find young people to carry your flag forward. In a hundred years time, when trans men and women are no longer discriminated against and abused and oppressed, your descendants will wonder how you could ever have thought the way you did

Aye I'm sure Tom O'Carroll thought similar.

No cigar mate Smile

Vango · 15/01/2018 19:12

You're a majority on here but a real world minority, a tragic outpost of the seventies becoming increasingly agitated in the face of your growing irrelevance.

You’re talking about ‘women’ there, aren’t you.

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 19:12

The higher that total goes the happier I am because I can't wait to see your money wasted Grin

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Fekko · 15/01/2018 19:12

Talking of descendants... that brings us back to the whole WOMEN GIVE BIRTH TO THE BABIES things again.

My descendent is already rolling his eyes - at the thought of women’s rights being eroded by men saying that they are women.

EamonnWright · 15/01/2018 19:12

The higher that total goes the happier I am because I can't wait to see your money wasted

Plenty more were that came from.

LyraPotter · 15/01/2018 19:13

*where

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snoofy · 15/01/2018 19:13

I think you'll find that MN is more left-wing.

PricklyBall · 15/01/2018 19:13

I love the "right wing and reactionary" slur! The whole point is that you're alienating swathes of left wing women, Lyra, the sort of women the Labour party relies on for votes and to go round the doorsteps polling. Hasn't it ever occurred to you to wonder why a group of people, solidly in favour of gay marriage, campaigning against racism, welcoming immigrants into our society, should suddenly turn round and say "hang on - this thing that we keep being told is so progressive... we're smelling a rat here... a nasty, misogynistic rat"?

EamonnWright · 15/01/2018 19:14

where

Man.

BeeInMyBonnet1985 · 15/01/2018 19:14

Did you type all that one-handed Lyra? Impressive.

BronwenFrideswide · 15/01/2018 19:15

Okay so easy question Lyra:

What are you right about and what are we wrong about?

ATeardropExplodes · 15/01/2018 19:15

I'd rather be upfront and honest about the fact that you literally cannot change sex, than pretend to be 'on the right side of history' until it comes to actually having a relationship with one...because that shows that you don't actually see transwomen as women, you are just doing it for other reasons...can't think what those might be.

Wrong side of history
coldcanary · 15/01/2018 19:15

Right wing? What are you on? I read half the threads on here and roll my eyes at how massively left wing it is half the time and I actually like the site!