Labour party invents new bollocks made-up non-existent definition for woman

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labour.org.uk/members/get-involved/national-youth-elections-2018/

Sixteen uses of the word 'self-defining woman'. Zero uses of 'female', 'biology', or plain 'woman'.

'Woman' is now literally meaningless. A woman can be a bog-standard heterosexual teenage male (Lily Madigan), if he says so.

And obviously with half the places reserved for 'self-defining women' (not 'women', 'self-defining women'), then there's not really any reason why men wouldn't define themselves a women, is there?

If misogynistic shits like Lily Madigan can 'self-define as a woman', well ALL men are women, aren't they?

The whole bloody human race is 'self-defined women'.

Stupid Labour.

Yes MiMi for the most oppressed group in the history of the world they’re quick with the violent threats, aren’t they.

Redonionricedpotato Are Transmen violent and aggressive to feminists? I haven’t seen any evidence of this, just wondered...

Cake, no I haven’t see evidence of this.

I did get the chance to reply that they were right about the cunt, as in I have one.
I got added to some 'lists' as well.

It's strange, when I look at people's Twitter feed who are wishing death on me, we support and agree on most causes apart from this one.

Redonionricedpotato It’s shocking the violence i’ve seen and read about from Trans activists. I just don’t understand it really. Trans rights and feminist rights are two very different issues and should be treated as such.

I did see today Lily was unsuccessful in her application to the Jo Cox programme. Maybe the PLP thought that would be just too far....

Great news. no need to have teenage boys on a program meant for adult human femals.

Donated.

Thanks for highlighting this. It’s thanks to Mumsnet I reached peaktrans about 18months ago. Happy to feel like I’m doing something, no matter how small, to point the finger at this madness and call it what it is.

“You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts”

I’m fairly new to all this and still learning - what is PeakTrans?

Really don't want to be going backwards from positive progress like this: labourlist.org/2016/08/all-women-shortlists-are-working-and-the-evidence-proves-it/

Peak Trans is where the TRAs go so overboard in their activism, so outrageous in their demands and expose themselves as so bogglingly, insanely unreasonable, that they start to turn the tide against themselves.

Every person has their own 'peak trans' moment - when a person who was going along with the rhetoric suddenly wakes up and goes "Wait, what?"

Gingernaut Oh I see! I think i’m there! 😂

Yeah peak trans is when you were originally supportive of trans people, but then you learn about things like the cotton ceiling and realise you can't sign up to the ideology.

It’s “hyperbolic” apparently when TRAs wish death on terfs

NotTerfNorCis I am supportive of Trans rights but not to the detriment of women, is this even possible? Okay i’m off to find out about ‘cotton ceiling’....

Oh my word cotton ceiling! sexual access to women is a right?

at least one transwoman on the Jo Cox programme though (Sophie Cook)

How many places are there?
How many have gone to transwomen?
& how many transwomen are there as a percentage of the female population?

Well at very least that lesbians who won't consider transwomen as sexual partners are nasty bigots. Also check out Riley J Dennis.

Also, re transwomen murdered - for whatever reason - there really aren't that many worldwide (I looked up stats a while ago).

Most are sex workers in South America and, arguably, killed because they are sex workers, not because they're trans.

Headline - "why are so many transwomen of colour being killed in America?"

It was 17 by August 2017, & a total of 23 in 2016.

How many women, of colour or not, were killed in the US in those periods??? That's irrelevant, apparently

I'm absolutely supportive of trans people. Its the trans rights activist political ideology where it becomes anti science, anti woman and anti reality with threatened and actual violence and misogyny to women that I'm emphatically peaked on. No few trans women feel the same way (and get treated just as badly if they say so), Miranda Yardley being one who is at the forefront standing up against all this and doing an outstanding job for women's rights. Also several brilliant MNetters.

I'm also highly peaked on the fact that all the crap is coming from highly shouty, entitled transwomen who grew up male - no few of them being married with kids and many with autogynephilia - and are dominating the political scene and being pandered to by all political parties, in creating legislation and situations that suits them and their agenda. The massive surge of teenaged girls identifying as boys (wonder why they don't want to grow up women?) many of whom have Autism or mental health needs as well, are nowhere to be seen in any of this lobbying, are unrepresented, and being hurled under the bus by the validation agenda to get permanently life altering, sterilising drugs and mutilating surgery asap with professionals prevented from helping in any other way, and constant pressure to drop the age of consent to all this as low as possible while preventing parents slowing it up or even being informed. The very young kids (80% of whom would grow up to be gay if left alone) also being used. By adult men who never went through the surgeries or medications themselves as children or in many cases even had the experience of growing up with gender dysphoria.

Massively, massively peaked on that.

"Trans women of color, particularly Black trans women, are being murdered at pandemic rates in the United States"

That was 28 in 2017

www.autostraddle.com/2017-trans-women-murdered-385295/

"pandemic"???

Honestly, it's as if women don't count

1600 women murdered by men in 2015

It's actually quite hard to find stats for murdered women - google, and you mostly only get figures for transwomen

Alice would feel quite at home in topsy turvy trans land

NotTerfNorCis I am supportive of Trans rights but not to the detriment of women, is this even possible? Okay i’m off to find out about ‘cotton ceiling’....

I am too and I would support the trans community having representation in government. They are about 1% of the population. Not on all women shortlists though, women are under-represented in government, men particularly white men are over-represented. Seats for the trans community should come from white men. Otherwise you end up with a reduced number of MPs who have actually been impacted by the issues and discrimination women face because of biology.

Oh I started a thread kinda about this after seeing a Lm tweet.

How many women, of colour or not, were killed in the US in those periods??? That's irrelevant, apparently

Just a few days ago the wonderful Anne posted on Twitter an article saying in just one week alone 4 black lesbians were killed at end of last year.

(Rip )

The total numbers of woman killed each year must be stupidly huge :(

Turns out there are more trans identified male perps than there are victims, if you count the prostituted TiM in with the enormous number of prostituted and trafficked people who are murdered. The prostituted have always been the favorite target of serial killers because the police are not interested, too busy.

Is it really 1%? What does that mean? People who're convinced they're trapped in the wrong body? If so why wasn't this phenomenon noted before? Or people who aren't signed up to the gender stereotypes associated with their biological sex? Does that make them 'transgender'?