""All female Celebrity Big Brother"

[CuddlyPanda]

Allegedly to celebrate 100 years of the female vote.

Preview info indicates that among the prospective female celebs are two TW. Do we think that the gender debate will be one of the topics discussed in there? And could it be a disaster for the GRA bill? Interested in hearing others' views!

(Also Katie Hopkins planned for it. Cant help hoping that she gets a bullied in there )

Willoughby is a “terf” and openly critical of transtrenders and not popular at all by many in the trans community.

I might watch it for a change to see what they have to say.

How did Hopkins come over when she was on it?

Yes I'm not a fan of Willoughby but interested to see if there is a clash with the model.

I think they're both transsexual, but I know the model was on TV in support of Topshop and Travis Alabanza.

Looks like Taloolah has pulled out - possibly due to Willoughby.

Willoughby is definitely not a terf!!!!!

I give you razor-gate.

Willoughby is of the ilk that there are superior trans who lady properly (shaved legs, lipstick and so on) and those who let the side down and damage the image of transwomen and risk the general population accurately associating the likes of Danielle Muscato with Willoughby. And of course, there's no material difference between Muscato and Willoughby save for grooming and possibly surgical status, which is neither here or there, really. Willoughby is desperate to create distance between categories of transwomen. It smacks of bolting the door behind you.

Can someone explain the trans women aren't female thing? I thought that was the new biological fact we're all being expected to agree with

which part of being born with a penis and XY chromosomes do you think makes them female Stealth? tilts head

I don't Rebecca. You've completely misunderstood me.

But people seem to be accepting women to an extent but not female

Personally I think both are a pile of crap but don't understand the distinction

at a guess i think we've been gaslighted into using transwomen (so they've appropriated that) and now have decided they can have female too.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.joe.co.uk/amp/entertainment/celebrity-big-brother-2018-line-up-155326 as usual I know less than half

Personally I think both are a pile of crap but don't understand the distinction

Because I think a lot of women have conceded "woman" to include these males as a "gender" but retreated into the position that "female" is our sex. Of course that was never going to satisfy the aggressive misogynists and internalised misogynists of the trans lobby.

at a guess i think we've been gaslighted into using transwomen (so they've appropriated that) and now have decided they can have female too.

YY.

I bet Anne Widdecombe is a massive TERF!

I think Rachel Johnson might give a few terfy comments too...

Maggie is fantastic.

Had to turn it off when they described it as a "4 day girls night in". Aaaargh.
I have a feeling the producers are hoping for a cat fight

Yes, I'm hoping Maggie wins!

How can Willoughby be an old school transsexual if he was married with a child, and is a late transitioner? And he thinks woman is a costume, especially with the shaving thing. I thought that was tectbook autogynephilia.

"Willoughby is a “terf” and openly critical of transtrenders and not popular at all by many in the trans community."

He recently claimed that the CBS/BBC trans documentary was the most horrific documentary ever broadcast.

He's just an identikit agp trans-identified male.

Well as a terf is anyone who doesn’t agree/obey with every trans demand - then India is a terf.

if i had had my willy lopped off i'd be really annoyed if some silly 17 year old merely dyed their hair blue and said they identified and got all the same access to women spaces as me...

Just out of interest has India had her willy lopped off?