""All female Celebrity Big Brother"

[CuddlyPanda]

Allegedly to celebrate 100 years of the female vote.

Preview info indicates that among the prospective female celebs are two TW. Do we think that the gender debate will be one of the topics discussed in there? And could it be a disaster for the GRA bill? Interested in hearing others' views!

(Also Katie Hopkins planned for it. Cant help hoping that she gets a bullied in there )

I thought Lees came over really well actually. Too well tbh, Paris was obviously being very charming and incredibly restrained (for Paris) to offset India’s damage - must have killed them. Not their usual style at all.

That’s really interesting bambambini. Just goes to show how differently people interpret things.

I’d never actually seen or heard of Paris before. But I immediately felt aggression disguised as passion the minute Paris started talking which put me right off.

Speaking in a soft voice doesn’t cancel out the aggressive tones IMO.

I thought Paris Lees came over reasonably well, didn't see any aggression behind the passion. SHe made a valid point about IW's "issues" around the Drag Queen thing perhaps being linked to the fact that she is still early in her transition.

However ... having seen pictures on Twitter today of IW happily posing with Drag Queen''s at a Pride event, I do wonder what their problem is. I suspect it's nothing to do with being Trans and everything to do with being an attention seeker and a tricky, unpleasant character generally.

I thought Paris came over well, but when that vicar said what she did, her face looked like thunder. Really displeased.

I think India’s issue with Courtney and Andrew dragging up is that India feels foolish - that when folk find it funny, ridiculous, offensive - they’re looking at India the same way and think of India as just another bloke in drag. Folk find men in women’s clothing, makeup, wig, mincing around - ridiculous.

Yes, I think you're right.

I completely agree. But I think there must be the added vertigo of looking down on the extreme and irreversible surgery India had and fearing that others don't take that 'commitment' more seriously... surely it might make India wonder "maybe I'm just a bloke in drag - and I cut off my dick... "

There was a section in last night’s show where Courtney was talking to 3 of the men about gender identity. Although he stated that India ‘had always been a women’, he also used phrases like ‘in the mind’.
The whole premise of the conversation was based on India being male but identifying differently. Courtney managed to traverse some typical constructs put forward by TRAs but in a manner that was far less aggressive.