Company selling miniature plastic penises for transboys under 5 years old to wear

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transkids.biz/products/extra-small-silicone-packers
It’s hard to believe, but apparently this is a real. Apparently they’ve ‘done a lot of research’

Yes the pedosexual thing is a joke or rather it’s a sort of trolling designed to encourage people to conflate LGBT with peadophilia. So working in this case I guess.

I posted this earlier in the thread, but I'll post it again....

-The miniaturised adult penises
-TIMs calling themselves girls because they dont menstruate
-Neo vaginas being cleaner (see above point)

• Women (as opposed to TIMs) being described as breeders
• That kids can absolutely consent at any age to medical things
• That little girls are kinky
• That children are sexual
• That children should be allowed to consent to consensual sexual activity with a loving adult (the last from a male, not TI)

There is a definite undercurrent in some TI folk of fetishising children. And once TRAs successfully argue that young children should be viewed as capable of giving consent it's a short hop to my last point above.

I don’t understand why you include the last point on your list but say it’s not to do with TIMs. Am I misunderstanding it?

I fact the two above that seem tenuous. I’m gender critical btw and would definitely be called a TERF. I don’t see a link between Trans and peadophilia though.

I spent some time googling the LGBTP thing and I think it is fake news.

But the link between trans activism and paedophilia is to do with the blurring of the boundaries around children’s ability to make choices about their bodies and consent to related interventions, I think. There is also the way in which children’s feelings and behaviours are co-opted into an adult agenda and viewed through an adult lens.

If I am misunderstanding, someone will correct me, I am sure. I am not entirely comfortable detailing what I mean in more depth. Children go through phases, they get to know their bodies, it is all quite natural and private. Adults can interpret that in ways which suit adults and an adult worldview. They ascribe a meaning which the child does not, and is not capable of ascribing.

Hi, we're just letting you know we've removed the image posted as it is a fake.

So since the packers stuff is still standing and Janice Turner has tweeted it, I assume that is all true. Fucking. Hell.

But the link between trans activism and paedophilia is to do with the blurring of the boundaries around children’s ability to make choices about their bodies and consent to related interventions, I think. There is also the way in which children’s feelings and behaviours are co-opted into an adult agenda and viewed through an adult lens.

If I am misunderstanding, someone will correct me, I am sure. I am not entirely comfortable detailing what I mean in more depth. Children go through phases, they get to know their bodies, it is all quite natural and private. Adults can interpret that in ways which suit adults and an adult worldview. They ascribe a meaning which the child does not, and is not capable of ascribing.

I think you have nailed it with this description.

Yes the packer stuff is very real. The owner of that website has an Instagram page featuring her own trans child, it's all quite revealing.

But the link between trans activism and paedophilia is to do with the blurring of the boundaries around children’s ability to make choices about their bodies and consent to related interventions, I think. There is also the way in which children’s feelings and behaviours are co-opted into an adult agenda and viewed through an adult lens.

There is also the extremely weird push to have 'legal' (16+) children. If these kids go on puberty blockers, they will be prepubescent until they are 18 so can go onto hormones. This side of it all sickens me tbh.

I think you have nailed it with this description

This is what I was trying to express but badly.

Aldous Huxley stated in the forward of brave new world:
This revolution is to be achieved not in the external world but in the souls and flesh of human beings.
He comments on Marquise de Sade:
The revolution of individual men, women and children, whose bodies were henceforward to become the common sexual property of all and whose minds were to be purged of all natural decencies, all laboriously acquired inhibitions of traditional civilisations.
Marquise hated Christianity because it stood in the way of his absolute sexual liberty- including rape, paedophilia etc

^Glossary of Terms
Here are some random terms that you may encounter here or out in the world that you may not be familiar with. Or maybe you already know all of these!

StP (Stand-to-Pee) Device

Used by trans-masculine folks, these are devices made to help folks not born with a penis urinate standing up. They can be made of many different materials and come in various sizes, shapes and designs.

Tuck(ing)

For trans girls and women, there is sometimes a desire or need to "tuck" the external genitals away. There are many ways to do this, sometimes with just a tight pair of underwear or wearing a Gaff which is made with the very specific purpose of tucking.

Cisgender

The common term used to refer to people who are NOT transgender.^

This is from the Transkids website. Thanks to whoever has been fighting the kiddie packer atrocity.

Sigh. And here I thought a stand-to-pee device was just a practical thing to take along to festivals, not an expression of my innermost being.

I bought one once at a festival Pinapple, I think it was called a she pee. Never worked for me though and I didn't look very cool coming out of the ladies urinals with a huge wet patch running down my leg.

On the connection: Autopedophilia: sexual arousal by the idea of being a child

Frequently co-occurs with autogynephilia (fetishes cluster.)

Furthermore, autopedophilic men tended to be sexually aroused by imagining themselves as the kinds of children (with respect to gender and age) to whom they are sexually attracted.

It’s one of those concepts that seems incredibly obvious as soon as you have a name for it. At least it seems obvious if you pay any attention to trans culture.

Related: those knickers for tucking that were on a previous page. It looks like they come in sizes two years old to adult? I just wanted to mention since no one else has, that the adult sizes of “tucking” underwear in little-girl designs are also disturbing. (Though the sizes for two year olds are another level of horrifying.)

I understand that society is sending the messages so children might want to be the other sex but surely, as parents, it comes under managing expectations.

People can't make their children taller, even if they want to be, it's very uncommon to die the hair of a preschooler at their request, they can't fly, they can't just invent a toy and have mum go in the internet to get it.... how on earth has sex crossed into the "reasonable request," category? We argue back and forth on ear piercings and bikini tops for boob-less children. Sticking chicken fillets in a wee girls' bikini is objectively less horrible than this but is somehow less acceptable.