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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan - C4 news tonight

548 replies

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 06/12/2017 19:04

Just switched over to Channel 4 News and Lily Madigan is going to be on it.

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whoputthecatout · 08/12/2017 17:24

Think I would have asked him has does he feel that he won't be called for his first cervical screening appointment until he is 25.

PersianCatLady · 08/12/2017 17:28

I think that we should compile a list of appropriate questions for Lily and then send Lily a question a day on Twiiter and Facebook.

LangCleg · 08/12/2017 17:44

PersianCatLady

I was intending to kinda rebuke Cathy Newman by asking the questions she should have asked in a segment dealing with the controversy of a 19-year-old non-transitioning boy to be a women's officer in a political party...

... but! It strikes me that it would better to tweet at Lily asking these kinds of questions (which will obviously expose the unsuitability of their election to this role) than to just tell them how unsuitable they are. Demonstration is better than assertion?

I could honestly think of dozens upon dozens of such questions to ask.

Fekko · 08/12/2017 17:47

I few sorry for Lily's boss. It's going to be a hard job to train him, explain the serious issues of the job and why he needs to stop acting like a silly teen and put his big person pants on and firefight the inevitable changers.

Fekko · 08/12/2017 17:49

Oh and deal with the tantrums (I can imagine this happening) and inevitable death threats when Lil tweets about the boss being a meanie for not letting him has a 3 hour fabulous lunch break.

nauticant · 08/12/2017 17:49

I'd say "show our viewers who you are" provides a far better critique than "let's try to wrong-foot you" when Lily would have the wobbling lower lip defence available.

PersianCatLady · 08/12/2017 17:49

LangCleg
Why don't you start a new MN thread - "Questions for Lily Madigan"?

FattyCat · 08/12/2017 17:59

I'm liking the cut of PersianCatLady's jib Grin

LangCleg · 08/12/2017 18:02

I'm just off out but anyone feel free to cut and paste those first few ?s and start a thread!

PersianCatLady · 08/12/2017 18:04

FattyCat
In what way?

FattyCat · 08/12/2017 18:22

PersianCatLady The new thread with questions for Lily

PersianCatLady · 08/12/2017 18:26

Sorry, if was just that I didn't get what you meant by jib

FattyCat · 08/12/2017 18:44

Ah, it just means "I like your style". I nicked it from blackadder Grin

TheXXFactor · 08/12/2017 19:13

Mermans is a satirical account and very funny.

TheXXFactor · 08/12/2017 19:14

(sorry - wrong thread Blush)

SirVixofVixHall · 08/12/2017 19:33

I agree with Roguebiscuits's post a few pages back. I don't feel sorry for Madigan, who comes across as horribly manipulative and deceitful. The gloating over access to women's "pretty data" and then the faux innocent replies when challenged. The spiteful mentions of "unsupportive" parents. I think he hates women. I will never vote labour again while they support women being treated like this. The worst sort of egotist with no substance it back it up. I find him creepy.

Fekko · 08/12/2017 19:36

I just don't see how - is this is actually a real job with real work and responsibilities - it can work.

So Lilly, I need your 100 day plan on my desk on the morning, including budgets. What are toy going to achieve and how - and I'm going to need project plans. You will present it to the senior management team on Friday.

How much is the salary for this?

SirVixofVixHall · 08/12/2017 19:42

Check out Ed Milliband's tweets to him and his responses..... THIS is someone tipped to be an MP? Then the country is finished. I have a 13 year old daughter. She could have given a better interview than that. He was an utter shambles.

SeamusMacDubh · 08/12/2017 19:48

I agree that there should be another thread for questions to be put to Lily via Twitter (or another suitably public forum).

MrGHardy · 08/12/2017 19:49

She could have given a better interview than that. He was an utter shambles.

People see what they want to see. Everyone supporting him thought he was great.

SeamusMacDubh · 08/12/2017 19:53

Maybe they just thought it was great that he didn't cry and fall to pieces or that he wasn't asked directly anything about which issues facing women are most important and therefore didn't have to fluff any answers on the spot or have a tantrum/breakdown because he was triggered.

SirVixofVixHall · 08/12/2017 19:54

No-one could have really thought he was great. It was dire. I also can't forget that this is the person who bullied his school into letting him use female loos and changing rooms. An 18 year old male. Nice.

ChattyLion · 08/12/2017 19:56

Love the list of questions.

History and Christina that is such a good point. Where an issue only affects women’s bodies- abortion, morning after pill etc- women are required to prove something and/or satisfy a gatekeeping authority figure before being allowed to have something (basically because women can’t be trusted with all that bodily/reproductive autonomy without an authority figure to decide for them).

But if something affects men too... hey presto, no gatekeeping is necessary! Anyone should just be able to self identify into a new legal status and exercise their rights in any previously sex-segregated setting on the spot! What they want is the only consideration.

The double standard is so blatant. Sad

And that’s really interesting and telling about the difference in attitude when it’s men’s and women’s bodies (or minds) at issue, exactly as your quote says History. Thanks for posting it.

christinarossetti · 08/12/2017 22:10

Yes, and it will soon be possible for men to buy Viagra over the counter.

To take at a time of their own choosing, rather than in front of the pharmacist as women have to do with the MAP.

Because men can be trusted with some degree of bodily autonomy, but women can't, of course.

OlennasWimple · 09/12/2017 01:12

Fekko - it's not a paid role, it's a formal elected LAbour Party role (that has some power, in part because they are able to vote for the candidate to try to represent the constituency as an MP), but it's a volunteer role