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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Lily Madigan, TIM, elected Labour women's officer

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jMillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 05:17

Lily is 19. Lily was instrumental in the hate campaign against Anne Ruzylo which resulted in her standing down.

You have to be a woman to be women’s officer but ‘The Labour councillor said that “lived experience as a woman” should be considered an advantage — but not a prerequisite — for the role of women’s officer.’

Lily could also have gone for the LGBT officer role but they didn’t want that. No, they wanted to show women that they can shit all over them and we will applaud them for doing it.

I’m absolutely furious about this ( as you can probably tell)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-teenager-lily-madigan-voted-in-as-a-labour-women-s-officer-mwchkhzq8?shareToken=472df23aa6315582a4f6558d7a1be5ba

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peaceloveandbiscuits · 20/11/2017 08:41

What can we do about this? I'm angry and hurt and feel betrayed. I'm a Labour Party member and lifelong voter. I need guidance.

BertrandRussell · 20/11/2017 08:47

"What can we do about this? I'm angry and hurt and feel betrayed. I'm a Labour Party member and lifelong voter. I need guidance."

Yes, I feel like that too. The whole #nodebate mindset is completely paralysing......

PricklyBall · 20/11/2017 08:50

Pretty much every culture in the world at every time in history has treated women as second class citizens to a greater or lesser degree, threatening them with systematic violence (domestic violence, rape, forced pregnancy, FGM, footbinding, breast ironing, sex-selective abortion and infanticide... the list is fucking endless) and denying them political and economic power.

Is this because:

(a) Women are smaller and less physically strong and thus more vulnerable to violence, and are particularly vulnerable when pregnant/nursing young children (where said pregnancies may be the result of rape)?

or

(b) because people who are drawn to wearing manly khaki clothing feel an irresistible urge to be violent towards people who are drawn to wearing ultra-feminine pink sparkly clothing?

or

(c) a mysterious and utterly inexplicable coincidence (even more inexplicable in the case of sex-selective abortion and infanticide because the violence starts before the individuals in question are even old enough to tell us what their internal gender feelz is)?

Answers on a post card to Rochester and Strood Labour Party.

Datun · 20/11/2017 08:57

The position of LGBTQ officer was also available, but Ms Madigan said she fought to become the women’s officer because she felt it was important

“to represent the views of a diverse group of women”.

Men, in other words.

I may be wrong about this, but being in the national spotlight is not going to help this man.

Inexperience, plus narcissism, plus a loaded agenda is going to become pretty obvious, eventually. That and the fact that he has no earthly way of actually representing women.

Thelilywhite · 20/11/2017 09:00

What the hell does a 19 year old boy know about being a woman. This has made me angry. Anyone who has facilitated this is accountable for the erasure of women.

Im inarticulate with rage. But this ^^

PhilODox · 20/11/2017 09:00

And that is why you should resign your party membership!
The only way they seem to notice is dropping numbers of party members.
This is a travesty.
Poor Anne Ruzylo.

pisacake · 20/11/2017 09:01

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"Every year the local constituency Labour Party elects ‘officers’ to carry out the organisational and campaigning priorities of the party. There are eight key posts that must be filled - chair, deputy chair, secretary, treasurer, vice-chair (membership) and vice-chair (policy), women’s officer and youth officer - and at least four of these must be women. The women’s officer must be a woman. "

"The aims of the women’s officer are to:

 Encourage women to join the party
 Encourage and empower women party members to play a full and active part in the party’s activities
 Build links with women in the wider electorate through campaigning, engaging on policy issues and two way communication
 Ensure that the priorities of the constituency reflect the views and concerns of women members and women in the wider community. "

shhhfastasleep · 20/11/2017 09:03

Only interested in your subs and your supporting vote without debate.

PhilODox · 20/11/2017 09:03

Pretty much every culture in the world at every time in history has treated women as second class citizens to a greater or lesser degree

Except, prickly, now we're third class citizens, as second class has been usurped. Angry
In the 21st century we have fewer rights and freedoms.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 20/11/2017 09:04

I'm pretty sure that this 19 year old boy is not going to be able to pursue those aims, unless of course they will be focusing purely on the TIMs....

jMillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 09:07

On the back of this, the WEP's shameful treatment of Heather Brunskell-Evans and the Labour Party giving two of the coveted Jo Cox Leadership programme places to transwomen, I just feel like no one is interested in women.

We're just being obliterated.

May as well ditch anything with the word women in it, it's absolutely meaningless.

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CAAKE · 20/11/2017 09:11

Have just realised that I met Anne Ruzylo at the Brighton meeting discussing the GRA. She was talking at the time about how she felt under threat from trans activists - she was visibly upset and spoke passionately about how Labour are throwing women, and particularly lesbians, right under the bus.

Datun · 20/11/2017 09:13

CAAKE

Was she the one who stood up in the meeting? During the Q&A?

C8H10N4O2 · 20/11/2017 09:16

Yes, I feel like that too. The whole #nodebate mindset is completely paralysing......

The misogynist wing of the left has never gone away and there is no getting away from the fact that the rise of milita^Momentum has given them control of most of the party again. This time they use gender and 'sex work' to shove us back in the box.

badbadhusky · 20/11/2017 09:19

This candidate should have been ineligible because of their sustained campaign of harrassment against Anne Ruzylo. That they’ve been a post in the party is abhorrent and green lights future harassment and bullying of women in the party. The gall of this TIM in occupying a women’s post is just the cherry on top IMO. I’m now done with Labour. We need a new party that advocated for women (WEP being manifestly unfit for the job).

LizzieSiddal · 20/11/2017 09:19

Angry.

I was going to join the Labour Party this week. I can’t now, this is an abomination.

What do labour female MPs think about this? Are they allowed to discuss it, I wonder?

AfunaMbatata · 20/11/2017 09:22

Just what can be done about all this? Feel like we need huge protests, disrupt this shit. All this being nice and writing letters of protest gets us nowhere. Bastarding world.

jellyfrizz · 20/11/2017 09:23

...the Labour Party giving two of the coveted Jo Cox Leadership programme places to transwomen

Which kind of negates this....

Firstly, trans-women are women, women who are vastly more under-represented than most.

Are there as many other minority women in these posts? Women with disabilities for instance?

Popchyk · 20/11/2017 09:25

"I may be wrong about this, but being in the national spotlight is not going to help this man."

This. Having got the job, this person now has to actually do the job.

By the way, this person started NHS treatment to "transition" one year ago according to this BBC link

Let's just see how well this person represents women. My guess is that it won't be a huge success. Suing schools and hounding people out of jobs is one thing when you have nothing to lose, doing actual work and demonstrating leadership of a group to which you don't belong when you have a lot to lose is quite another.

Callamia · 20/11/2017 09:25

What do we do. I don’t want to resign my membership, I need/want to be involved at the local level, where really good stuff is done. So what? Where do we go from here?

Annoyingly, I can’t even join in the counsellor short-list this week because there’s no space to have a say if you’re trapped at home with a newborn. I’m feeling pretty voiceless right now.

LizzieSiddal · 20/11/2017 09:27

Pop that’s a very good pint actually.

We should all keep a very close eye on what they actually do in this job and how well they represent women and not just trans.

AssignedPerfectAtBirth · 20/11/2017 09:27

This is her I think

twitter.com/sargesalute

jMillicentFawcett · 20/11/2017 09:29

That's Anne's twitter - not Lily's!

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AfunaMbatata · 20/11/2017 09:30

No one will actually care if this person does a shit job though, they really won’t.

KatherinaMinola · 20/11/2017 09:30

Teresa Murray is doing some superb tightrope walking there. I'm quite impressed with her.

I thought this too! Translation: "Please be clear, I had no hand in this nonsense."

Wonder if she can translate it into action though? Clearly she didn't manage to stop the election - what were the other idiots thinking?

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