Two more women attacked by trans activists

[ferntwist]

At least two more feminists have been attacked by trans chauvinists today, set upon while they were handing out leaflets at the Anarchist Book Fair. One is Green Party candidate Olivia Palmer and the other a trade union rep Helen Steel

This needs to be made a much bigger deal. Why is it violence against women is so dismissed.
I'm going to email these tweets to every newspaper I can find.

Helen Steel? From the McLibel case? for her. She's awesome!

I agree it doesn't look good coinciding with #metoo. All those women talking about abuse they've suffered then a bunch of thugs come out bragging about abusing women for the 'crime' of hurting their feelings.

How many things have looked obvious to us but not at all to Maria Miller et Al though? I'm not feeling so hopeful myself.

Well I just don't think physical attacks are very ladylike.

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I agree with that. Maria Miller has been told this over and over. In fact she originally took advice, officially, from the people who were responsible for the violence at speakers corner.

That very much suggests to me that she has done no due diligence at all, neither have her team. One hour on the Internet, would have informed her better.

But now it’s more public. Mainstream media are writing about it. She can’t not know, or rather Justine Greening can’t. And by ‘not know’, I mean she cannot be unaware of public opinion, irrespective of her personal opinion.

I don't think public opinion is the issue - just because lots of people agree with something doesn't necessarily make it right. But she can't be unaware of all the valid objections to her proposal or the reasons which it is hugely problematic. She might not be capable of critical thinking, but plenty of people who are have put forward perfectly reasonable, well argued objections.

And yes, she must now be aware that the people she is taking advice from use tactics reminiscent of the brown shirts.

Well I just don't think physical attacks are very ladylike

Many TRAs are not 'ladylike' at all. They are violent male misogynist thugs who simply want excuses to harm women and make us more vulnerable whilst at the same time making out they are the victims and we are the aggressors.

The replies to gayjewboy are really bloody marvellous. Thank goodness folk are speaking out. #nodebate indeed.

Of course Maria Miller is aware of the potential problems. The key to her approach is that she gives them a far lower priority than making changes that she hopes will benefit the Tory Party. All she's interested in is "looking like transphobes = losing young votes".

As I've said before, look at Brexit. It was about internal difficulties in the Tory Party, there was no thought about a Leave vote, there was no plan, and there's no sign of properly sorting out the mess. This is how politicians behave when holding onto power is their top priority.

I have a friend who works in the House of Commons who says most MPs she's talked to about it think it's a terrible bill but don't feel able to vote against it.

just because lots of people agree with something doesn't necessarily make it right

TBF I think the majority of people wouldn't agree with it given the chance.

Ask the average bystander "should we protect the civil rights of this marginalised group" and everyone will nod along. People don't bother thinking properly unless they can see the impact on them.

Give them some specific scenarios (sports /scholarships / refuges for eg) and I think the TRAs would find their support rapidly evaporating .

most MPs she's talked to about it think it's a terrible bill but don't feel able to vote against it

Well that bodes well for democracy

They will drop this if the public backlash is big enough. We have to keep raising awareness.

Helen Steel is incredible. They won't shut her up.

I don't know if any of you have been following the SpyCops campaign but she's been instrumental in that recently. It's about getting justice for the women manipulated into relationships with undercover police officers.

There's a longer leaflet in the other Twitter feeds that looks very good at summrizing what is wrong with the Gender Recognition Bill. Does anyone know where it came from?

The replies to gayjewboy are really bloody marvellous. Thank goodness folk are speaking out. #nodebate indeed.

Yes I just went through liking most of them.

Seems the gender critical voice is getting louder. The transactivists don't seem to realize that the more they try to silence the louder people shout and the more people the voices reach. And that the violence just gives more publicity to what the 'terfs' are saying.

I do have hope that this madness will be stopped in its tracks soon. Hell even the 3 transwomen I know think self ID is mental and makes a bit of a joke of a serious mental health condition.

Maria Miller has been told this over and over. In fact she originally took advice, officially, from the people who were responsible for the violence at speakers corner.

I've written to my MP regarding this, asking why the government invited this group (who fit the dictionary definition of terrorists incidentally since they advocate, promote and incite violence for political purposes) to give evidence to a select committee, and why they're nhs funded. And sharing a number of tweets and facebook posts illustrating their hatred of women and advocacy of corrective violence.

MP has chosen not to reply to that letter, nor the one I sent him asking him about the incoherency between #metoo and safeguarding and the GRB.

That's a very good leaflet, they need to be widely shared by every possible means.

@OlennasWimple sages.org.uk/publications/pdfs/Quick-facts-Sex-gender-and-equal-rights-SAGES-2017.pdf

most MPs she's talked to about it think it's a terrible bill but don't feel able to vote against it

Is that because of the party whip or just because it's seen as politically incorrect and will get them loads of abuse/threats?

That's it Ferntwist. Although the SAGE one SecretHandshake linked to is good as well, thanks

A march about free speech has been cancelled due to the recent attacks on free speech. This is from the We Need to Talk UK and Ireland tour Facebook page:

After more drama with trans activists and their supporters at the ‘anarchist’ book fair yesterday, we have decided to cancel the Funeral of Free Speech that was planned for the Day of the Dead next week.
It was supposed to be a fun event to highlight Goldsmiths’s role in shutting down debate both in and outside the university and their lack of condemnation of the violence at Speakers Corner last month.
However, we do not want to provoke these angry and vulnerable young people. Let’s have serious, grown up debate and put a stop to all of this violence and hate.

The SAGES one is good, if overlong; the other one won’t convince anyone who isn’t already convinced (and I say that as somebody who loves a radical flyer).