Does the fact that MTFs are victimizers in these obscenely violent criminal acts more frequently than they are victims change how lawmakers will see their claims of eternal victimhood? I doubt it. How many male murderers will have to be given elective surgery at taxpayer expense and housed with women (far less likely to be in prison for violent crime) before someone takes a long, hard look at the reality of the situation?

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FloralBunting · 13/10/2018 00:46

Indeed, Bunbury calls. But what a fabulous night. Well done Posie.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:48

Every post you type is sexist and offensive. That you do it on the FWR board with your username is especially offensive.

Trapped in the wrong body, gentlest, twaw ffs. Bullshit.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 00:48

This has to be my favorite "wait, what?" thread ever in terms of genderist comments.

Woman - I don't want men giving me smear tests.

Genderist - You're a boat! And also a Victorian. Possibly a Victorian boat?

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:49

I have not cast judgement.

I just wont accept people trying to force me to believe things I know are untrue.

Neither you or your child can force females to give up their spaces so your child feels validated.

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:50

It's not a moral judgement to observe physical reality.
It's also not the suffering Olympics. Many people suffer, your child isn't unique in that regard. I won't concede material reality and force vulnerable women and girls to suffer so your child doesn't have to. Because feminism

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:50

No, I have three brothers I also have three daughters. My transgender daughter is like my other daughters and less like my brothers. She yearns to be accepted and why not? How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman? Most transgender people say they feel trapped in the wrong body and their wrong body disgusts them. She poses no threat to any of you. She is a demise btw.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:51

Also, if your child is genetically male and suffers due to that you need to ensure they recieve adequate help amd treatment.

Demanding everyone lie to make them happy isnt healthy.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:51

Sorry , predictive text. I meant to say, she is a feminist.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:52

My daughter does not need treatment. What are you? Some nutter that wants her to have aversion therapy?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:53

How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman?

Lol. Do you even read what you type?
How about, how does any male bodied person know what being a woman is really like?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:54

Why does it matter? All women feel different to one another probably.

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:54

I’m pretty different to you.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:54

How many females have had to leave changing rooms and bathrooms because your child was in there?

How on earth do you imagine thats a feminist whem they have no respect for females?

Can I tell you about my daughter now?
My daughter wants to use the loo and changing rooms without males being in there.

Is my daughter allowed that right, or do males get the right to choose?

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 00:55

No seriously, I think we need a "you're a German U-boat!" meme. Or possibly just "you're a boat!" for brevity's sake.

Datun · 13/10/2018 00:55

Feminist4 do you think it's at all possible that your child might have a disassociative disorder, where they think they can't be non-sexually aggressive and gentle, without identifying as a woman?

ALittleBitofVitriol · 13/10/2018 00:55

Unreal.

If every woman feels differently to each other, how do transwomen know that what they feel is woman?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:56

That’s because she’s your child and you have brainwashed her into thinking transgender women are bogeymen

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 00:57

My teenaged niece is frightened of using public toilets when transwomen are in them. Nobody told her to be frightened, she just is, because she's already learned that males are a potential danger to her.

Why do her feelings matter less than those of people who ID as trans?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:57

Just like German children were taught that Jewish children were filth

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:58

Nope, its because even at 12 she knows males make sexually aggresive remarks and advances.

And like you, and me, she cant tell the difference between men and transwomen.

ShamelesslyPlacemarking · 13/10/2018 00:58

How do any of you know what it is like to be a transgender woman? Most transgender people say they feel trapped in the wrong body and their wrong body disgusts them.

And some transgender women say they identify as women yet equally accept that they are not, in fact, female in the fullest sense of the word, that there are specific and important differences between themselves and natal women.

Are those transgender women allowed to hold a different belief to the one you have settled on? Or must they, like the ignorant women who do not accept that transgender women are the same as natal women in all ways, and must be treated as natal women in all ways, be educated until they come to the same belief as you?

Annandale · 13/10/2018 00:59

I hate the idea that anyone hates their own healthy body and would damage it due to that hate. I've certainly taken hormones, and it was a horrible thing to have to do with multiple side effects. I am free from them now, thank God. My husband took lifelong medication, it was awful but he couldn't live without it and indeed when he stopped it he took his own life. The idea that suddenly a huge new group of people require lifelong medication for something that adds a whole lot of new health risks to their lives, but without that medication they will be perfectly healthy - it's extremely hard to accept: not when a very few years ago a tiny proportion of them would have felt the same. As for the surgery - i work on post surgical wards and know some truly amazing surgeons. Any surgery is a huge, huge deal with lifechanging effects and risks; just having the anaesthetic is quite significant. I believe we are coming to the end of the antibiotic era. Will this surgery even be possible in the future?

Feminist4 · 13/10/2018 00:59

She needs to be educated into realising transgender women are women and not scarey. How does it feel for a person to be in a group that others are scared of. It’s not the transgender woman’s fault. It’s society’s fault.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/10/2018 00:59

Maybe my niece could identify as an armored submarine? That might help.

Hyppolyta · 13/10/2018 00:59

What crap.

Of theres nothing to be scared of using male spaces, your male child can use them, cant they.

If they refuse you can tell them theyre acting like a nazi 🙄

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