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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie is also Spartacus

155 replies

IamalsoSpartacus · 10/03/2017 19:22

She's just been interviewed on C4 news and has said essentially the same as Jenni Murray.

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birdsdestiny · 10/03/2017 20:13

It's feels like a shift. To my shame I think I overlooked the fact that these women have power and influence. They are listened to.

AnyFucker · 10/03/2017 20:13

Imagine that ?

FloraFox · 10/03/2017 20:19

Good for Cathy Newman for raising this.

conkercola · 10/03/2017 20:20

www.channel4.com/news/chimamanda-ngozi-adichie-on-feminism Full interview

CaoNiMartacus · 10/03/2017 20:23

This is great. The more people of influence that speak up, the better.

TheQuestingVole · 10/03/2017 20:48

Cathy Newman looked like she was sucking on a lemon.

ageingrunner · 10/03/2017 21:12

I feel so sad and angry that she's going to get a load of rape and death threats now

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/03/2017 21:16

She was a legend already, this is wonderful.

DJBaggySmalls · 10/03/2017 21:17

Thank you Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie Star
Isnt that what Jenni Murray said?

Fauchelevent · 10/03/2017 21:26

Oh shit. Chimamanda is intersectional feminisms poster girl!! Ready and waiting for the virtue signals to come out in full force denouncing her as an evil disgusting terf who needs to go into a hole (or worse) and how theyre sooo disappointed in her. The comments that trans women have never ever lived as men or had male privilege are so deluded. One person said "we do suffer misogyny we're abused as children for being too feminine"... so that would be because you were not conforming to the gender roles expected of men, not misogyny. women dont go through abuse for being too feminine. We go through abuse for being women.

Meanwhile i think i ought to pay her more attention...

QuentinSummers · 10/03/2017 22:33

I'm so pleased about this! She is so measured and phrased her point so well.
The comments on the Facebook article are a total dogs dinner. Cis people can't talk for trans people because they are different, yet trans women are women how dare you say they are different? Confused
Also all the love for Janet Mock is annoying. Janet Mock calls women "fish". If there was a trans word for TERF she would be it. I need to think of an acronym for people who believe vagina havers aren't real women Grin

quencher · 10/03/2017 22:56

I have always loved her because she is straight forward and not afraid to say what she believes in and how.
I find her very funny too.

QuentinSummers · 10/03/2017 23:08

I need to stop reading the comments or I'll reply and I'm not "out" on FB
Someone has said there is not on thing that cis women go through that trans women do not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shock Shock
Really? REALLY?
Childbirth? Periods? Gynaecological exams? Menopause? Hormonal contraception? Getting accused of everything being related to your hormones? Uterine and ovarian cancer? Mammograms? Smear tests? Fanny farts? Stress incontinence? Getting judged on your motherhood or not status? Not being able to access abortion in many places? FGM? Getting aborted or abandoned at birth for having a vulva?
GRRRRRRRRRRR

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 10/03/2017 23:36

I've jumped in and commented on the FB thread. Done a lot of "liking" too.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 11/03/2017 01:41

Good for her!
The comments on that FB post are a real shit show, wow.

Lots saying cis women should shut up about not talk about gender issues at all we can not discuss anything pertaining to trans. Lots of "cis women are this, cis women (I have a huge issues with that term - even had a bit of a barney with someone in the pub about it this evening) are that." They tell us constantly how we think, how to behave, what to do, what not to do and we can't comment on the elements of trans activism that we find damaging, threatening and dangerous to a group of people who have been oppressed and marginalise for their entire life and the entirety of written history?

Why do so many people want to identify as women if they hate the people who already are women? Why do they want to be women if they hate the realities of it i.e. someone always telling us to sit down, shut up and listen and why we are always wrong.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 11/03/2017 01:45

The way this is going I can see a time where funding for women's health will be divided up and a huge chunk will be directed towards traditional male illnesses treated on previously female only wards. As there are so many more male to trans in comparison to female to trans women's healthcare will be impacted hugely. Born women will lose out and will not be allowed to argue back.

nooka · 11/03/2017 02:58

I heard a great interview with her on the radio and thought she was a very thoughtful person. I thought I might buy one of her books for dd and me to read, and now I have an extra reason to support her.

Yes, transwomen are transwomen and women are women.

BevGoldbergsSister · 11/03/2017 03:10

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TanteRose · 11/03/2017 03:14
Smile
TanteRose · 11/03/2017 03:15

She's an amazing woman and an brilliant writer

TanteRose · 11/03/2017 03:15

*a

Oswin · 11/03/2017 04:05

About to lose my shit on those cb comments.

Transwomen are biologically women anyway apparently. Fucks sake.

damnedgrubble · 11/03/2017 07:27

Thank goodness for common sense.

wrappedupinmyselflikeaspool · 11/03/2017 08:07

This is great. I think she doesn't take any s**t from anyone so she will be fine. As someone said earlier she is intersectional feminisms poster girl. I wonder if this is it? You know, are we finally at the turning point that so many of us have been waiting for ? God I hope so, I feel like I'm going mad.

Fauchelevent · 11/03/2017 08:13

I dunno, I doubt its the turning point. People are in too deep right now. I think she'll be written off as a terf and dumped onto the pile. In her place will go Laverne Cox and anyone else who will toe the line.

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