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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jenni Murray "Changing sex can't make a real woman"

600 replies

Freddorika · 05/03/2017 08:17

'Those who have lived as men, with all the privileges that entails, do not have the shared experience of growing up female.'

Brave and interesting article in the Times.

Link here behind pay wall I think

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Gingernaut · 07/03/2017 12:32

www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/

For anyone who wants to complain to BBC about their treatment of Jenni Murray

MercyMyJewels · 07/03/2017 12:50

Ha ha ha. Nice try fuckers

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/188982

DianaMemorialJam · 07/03/2017 12:59

Ahahahahahaaahha I almost pissed my pants. Idiots.

EmpressOfTheSpartacusOceans · 07/03/2017 13:00

GrinGrinGrin

And in other cheering news, Martina Navratilova got into a Twitter conversation last night about transing kids and lesbian erasure, where she asked questions and genuinely listened to the answers. Which was great to see.

GirlScout72 · 07/03/2017 13:10

Reported the troll

KittiesInsane · 07/03/2017 13:11

I just went to the Telegraph article about Jenni Murray to check what had been said, before trying to get my thoughts in order for an email.

On the same page, there is a link to the 'Many barriers still faced by women engineers'.

But hey, why worry about why half the population is less likely to take up decent careers, when we could worry about the 'reality' or otherwise of transwomanhood?

CharlottaBronte · 07/03/2017 13:17

Just read the Navratilova convo Empress - and have now found out about the 'cotton ceiling'. FFS. Rape culture.

GirlScout72 · 07/03/2017 13:43

Ooh the cotton ceiling, just explained that to a female friend today, partic the bit about 'vagina fetishists' which is the accusation at lesbians who won't shag women with penises, she was aghast.

The thing that confuses me is why don't 'lesbians with penises' have sex with each other (the answer cos they are het men, not gay men) and they are allowed to be vagina fetishists (FFS, homoSEXual is kinda the clue that SEXuality is based on SEX) but lesbian's aren't

Corrective rape, how progressive!

Apparently transwomen lesbians are too triggered to sleep with other transwomen lesbians with 'lady sticks' but the triggering, trauma or otherwise of lesbians is dismissed as a fetish.

Quite how this is all OK, I have no fucking idea!

MercyMyJewels · 07/03/2017 13:50

Applauds Martina!!!

CharlottaBronte · 07/03/2017 13:50

Complete. Fucking. Nuts. Literally.

BeerMuggles · 07/03/2017 14:16

omg, why should lesbians have to shag men with penises! Lots of old fat bald men with gravy on their jumper won't shag any woman their own age. It is all so ridiculous!

Datun · 07/03/2017 14:36

...with gravy on their jumper

That made me laugh out loud

PencilsInSpace · 07/03/2017 15:22

If you click 'get petition data' on that rejected petition you can find the names of 17 MPs who signed it:

Bob Stewart MP
Gordon Marsden MP
Jim Cunningham MP
Liz Saville Roberts MP
Tim Loughton MP
Ian Mearns MP
Peter Kyle MP
Chris Evans MP
Liz Kendall MP
Mark Lancaster MP
Justin Tomlinson MP
Clive Lewis MP
Rt Hon Sir Kevin Barron MP
Rt Hon Sir Alan Duncan MP
Derek Thomas MP
Paul Scully MP
Sir Peter Bottomley MP

DianaMemorialJam · 07/03/2017 15:24

😵

CaroleService · 07/03/2017 15:32

Might not really be them?

Mrsmorton · 07/03/2017 15:46

Isn't that the MP of people in the constituency who voted? It says signatures by constituency in the code (which is computer language I don't understand)

PencilsInSpace · 07/03/2017 15:48

Ah hang on ... I think I've got it. If you look at the 'get data' page on any petition, it starts with a big list of countries and how many signatures from each. Then under that there is a list of signatures by constituency, each of which has 'mp' as a variable. So the signatories came from those MPs' constituencies.

Apologies to the 17 MP's Blush

PencilsInSpace · 07/03/2017 15:50

x-post - yes Mrsmorton, I got there in the end Grin

whoputthecatout · 07/03/2017 16:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4289920/Woman-26-appears-court-charged-raping-man.html

FFS - just look at this crap.

whoputthecatout · 07/03/2017 16:23

So, if there is a conviction this will go down in female crime statistics.

Wake up politicians, liberal feminists, leftie luvvies and get real.

Lumbricina · 07/03/2017 16:26

FFS, this is getting ridiculous.

PoochSmooch · 07/03/2017 16:32

Sarah Ditum is in the Independent, putting all the pieces together for those who haven't seen it yet

CharlottaBronte · 07/03/2017 16:42

Can someone please reply to the, um, person who says in the comments, under that brilliant piece from Sarah Ditum in the Indie ; 'The OP has chosen to illustrate her opinion with a violent crime. Women are equally capable of violent crimes, and have been known to use dildoes to "rape".'

CharlottaBronte · 07/03/2017 16:42

Thanks for linking to it Pooch.

GirlScout72 · 07/03/2017 17:03

Indie comments are a sewer, best not to bother, just share it as much as possible.