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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Using 'Mrs'

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Booboobedoo · 14/01/2017 09:02

This is something I've been pondering for a while, and now I'm posting on here to garner opinion.

I'm sure I can't be the first to suggest this, but would it not be a logical step to start addressing women as 'Mrs' as soon as they are adults, in the same way that men become 'Mr'?

It would render 'Ms' unnecessary.

Ultimately I suppose I'd prefer all titles to be done away with altogether, but I'm not sure the world is ready 😁.

Any thoughts? Any obvious reason why not?

Anyone?

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LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/01/2017 14:21

Why does my changing of my title to show the commitment I made need to be mirrored some way by my husband? I changed it for myself and my husband, not for anyone else

Why do you need to make a public declaration of this commitment? Why do you need everyone who now meets you to know you are married? If it's so important to declare this commitment on every occasion, no matter how trivial, why would he not want to declare it too?

It's hardly a rigmoral to answer one question that's being asked to ascertain your preferred title

It's an irritating, pointless and irrelevant question which your husband, because there is no social requirement for him to publicly announce to the world that he is married, never, ever, has to deal with. Yet every women over the age of 16 has to deal with on a daily basis simply because the "Mrs" of the world think the rest of the world needs to know they made a commitment to a man.

Your last post is one of the most illogical I've seen on Mumsnet.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 22/01/2017 14:29

Why does is matter if there are multiple titles for women - as long as they all remain available for everyone. It is JUST a personal preference

Then why are there not multiple choices for men ? Can you not see the blinding illogicality of that ?

And please don't counter with that huge red herring about "Master" for young men simply because one or two instances of misjudged and misused etiquette resulted in a boy child getting a letter addressed to "master".

That never happened to my son and even if it had, he is not at the age of 27 and unmarried, getting letters a dressed to "Master DelicateAir"

Re other languages is there any language other than English which has this ludicrous situation?

MaryTheCanary · 24/01/2017 11:55

FunFact: Medieval and early modern French had an approximate male equivalent to "Mademoiselle." It was "Mondemoiseau." Used until the 16th/17th century.

TheVeryThing · 24/01/2017 12:40

Just to add to Seneca's comments on the US, I also think that titles are used far less frequently here in Ireland.
I don't think they are used in any of my formal correspondence and have never had difficulty in selecting Ms from a drop down list.
To 'Mrs' is very old-fashioned.
I am early forties, and although many of my friends & colleagues have changed their surnames after marriage, I don't know anyone of my generation who uses mrs.
I didn't change my name after marriage (14 years ago) and I'm certainly not particularly brave or a trail-blazer.
I have a PhD but never use the title outside of a work context and would rather titles would just disappear altogether.

KanyeWesticle · 24/01/2017 14:17

I don't know why we need titles at all.
I hate the Miss/Ms/Mrs question - none of them are intuitive to me. I'm married but it doesn't change who I am - in the same way it doesn't change DH's identity. Why should it?

Sometimes - eg medical records - they need to know I'm female. Very rarely they need to know I am married.

TheElephantofSurprise · 24/01/2017 14:26

Too late, but interested.

I use Ms and Mrs.
Mrs because I never was 'Miss Surprise', the Surprise is a remnant of my marriage.
Ms Something-Else, but I never liked my maiden name.
As a proper old-fashioned feminist, I considered using my mother's first name as my surname, so 'TheElephantofTheRhinoceros'. But the then-extant mother objected because everyone who had been named after her had died fairly shortly afterwards.
So I use Ms Surprise or Mrs Surprise, according to my whim.

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