Using 'Mrs'

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This is something I've been pondering for a while, and now I'm posting on here to garner opinion.

I'm sure I can't be the first to suggest this, but would it not be a logical step to start addressing women as 'Mrs' as soon as they are adults, in the same way that men become 'Mr'?

It would render 'Ms' unnecessary.

Ultimately I suppose I'd prefer all titles to be done away with altogether, but I'm not sure the world is ready 😁.

Any thoughts? Any obvious reason why not?

Anyone?

Errol, around here (not UK) teachers are addressed as 'Teacher Jane', 'Teacher Joseph'. Sounds less odd in not-English.

Bertrand, yes. Especially if their surname was Bates!

I sort of like OP idea. If Master turns to Mr for a male after 18 then why not Mrs for females after 18. They are adults just the same, then no one knows if someone is married/single/divorced.

As much a I agree with Ms the up take is so slow and unfortunately, when someone uses it there are still plenty of knobheads people who like to muse why they use it and if they are trying to hiding the fact they are unmarried or divorced.

Since 16 i've had know respect for female titles when filling forms in, or correcting people who refer to me by the wrong title.

I've often written Ms,Mrs,Miss as I don't care.

"Since 16 i've had know respect for female titles when filling forms in, or correcting people who refer to me by the wrong title.

I've often written Ms,Mrs,Miss as I don't care."

And you don't think this attitude might be contributing to the problem a bit?

Why? I don't care what someone else perceives my marital status as. Why should anyone care?

We have to many titles, I don't agree with people giving me one, so I use them all.

If you've a spare hour, this is an interesting paper on the subject.

www.geog.cam.ac.uk/research/projects/occupations/abstracts/paper25.pdf

And, yes I think Mrs for adult women would be preferable. I currently use all three terms, depending on the day...

But then you say that the take up of Ms is slow- of course it is if people don't use it!

I do use it though.

I've been thinking about why people don't use it.

Fear of standing out. Tradition. Family pressure.

Maybe eventually it will be fully accepted, but Mrs already is.

I know not by all in this thread, but my personal experience leads me to believe that those of us who lurk/post on the feminist boards are not representative of society at large.

"Maybe eventually it will be fully accepted, but Mrs already is." as meaning a married woman. Do you seriously think you are going to change that?

I don't know. I'd like to.

bertrand Yes I believe it could, I also believe it would happen quicker then the Ms has.

I believe this because as you point out its is generally to denote a married woman. PP said how many women still like Miss because they like the change to Mrs after marriage. Well maybe it's not that they like Miss so much but the and finale change to Mrs. So let's just give everyone Mrs, then there is no pinnical (not that I think it is), if all woman are Mrs from 18 then the link to marriage will soon disappear.

Whilst we still have a choice of 3 different titles, people will still be influenced into using one, whichever it maybe.

Also sorry for my very poor SPAG.

Part of me is quite surprised that anyone finds this idea controversial. Perhaps because I've been thinking about it for such a long time.

I don't find the idea controversial. I think the principle is sound. I just think it will confuse people and there won't be enough take up to make it a thing.

I don't find it controversial, I just don't believe it's the best plan, if our aim is to have the majority of adult women using one title, and for titles to not reflect marital status, I think we have a better chance with Ms than with Mrs.

What Trills said.

And Mr is not pronounced how it is written; the female equivalent was once Mistress, as others have said. Ms or Mrs could both be short for mistress, but unfortunately this has adulterous connotations.

Ms exists. Mrs has a meaning with respect to marriage. You won't change that now.

Madam?

Well, we might not, but we might.

Historically, mistress was not always an adulterous title. It just meant a grown woman who was not a lady.

I might join Netmums, and see what they think. Different demographic and all that.

Thanks again for engaging: you could have just left me shouting into the darkness.

Will you let's us know what sort response you get boo I'd be interested.

Will do MysticTwat.

Your name makes me laugh every time I see it.

thank you

"Historically, mistress was not always an adulterous title. It just meant a grown woman who was not a lady"

Yes, I know.

I didn't mean to womansplain at you HelenDenver . Just getting overenthusiastic.