General Trans Discussion Thread

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I seem to be hitting #PeakTrans on a daily basis now and thought it would be useful to have another general thread to discuss/post/share

If you haven't seen Magdalen Berns' recent blog post it's really worth a look

Mercy - tremendous articles

I’m a little (bit more) confused about a news item today about the RAF. It’s in both the Daily Mail and The Sun, but I’ll write a precis rather than post links.

It has been proposed by the top brass that servicewomen are no longer to be allowed to wear skirts on parade, in the barracks, or during public events. They must wear trousers. This is so transgender personnel don’t feel excluded.

Now, I recall that some years ago, when initial training became mixed, males and females, the skirt had to be redesigned as it was too narrow for women to match the stride-length of the men. (And, indeed, there were concerns that making women match the men’s stride-length wasn’t good for their hips/pelvises. But never mind about that, eh?)

Apparently, in 2001, servicewomen were permitted to wear trousers on parade, and I guess that was because some women are tall and even the redesigned skirt wouldn’t work for them. I don’t think transgender was an issue 16 years ago.

Presuming that the transgender personnel in question are MTT, a skirt would be problematic for them, being generally longer in the leg. So, rather than redesign the skirt yet again (or, heaven forfend, go for a shorter stride-length) it’s much better to get rid of the one symbol that distinguishes the females.

Although I do think trousers are more practical for women (many servicewomen wore battledress during WWII), this seems all about the feelz. Apparently, there are no known statistics of the number of transgender people in the RAF, but it's reckoned to be "in the tens".

Some group in Spain isn't pulling it's punches. They put the this ad on a bus.

One response was

"Put the advertisers and people who paid for it on the bus, then burn the bus with the doors and windows locked give the entire bus a very long class on how biology and sexual dimorphism works."

Oh God/ess. I'm so embarrassed.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4269792/ANDREW-PIERCE-powerful-transgender-lobby.html

The Daily Mail are definitely becoming critical. Almost every article they write is either questioning or disputing the ideology.

I'm only amazed they haven't made it more sensationalist than they have. Because they could.

I wonder how far they'll go.

I like the phrase 'Gender fascists' used to replace ' Trans Activists'.

Crunchyside, it shouldn't be dominating the agenda, but tran activists have totally hijacked feminism, in an extremely swift movement. We have to discuss it before it actually becomes illegal for us to define ourselves and gather without the presence of males.

The funny thing is that Daily Mail article can be read as though transactivists have taken over from feminists as being the biggest threat.

It's almost as though they'd mock the decision to replace skirts with trousers if it was driven by feminists, but shock horror, it's actually another even crazier group who are demanding it. Am I just reading this judgement because it's the Daily Mail?!

Yes there is an undercurrent of and guess what? This time it isn't even women, it's transgenders!

Nonetheless I still think it is helpful, especially as the minuscule number of transwomen vs sweeping policy change is being highlighted.

"I like the phrase 'Gender fascists' used to replace ' Trans Activists'."

My personal favorite is FARTs (Feminist-Attacking Radical Transactivists)....

Quite surprised that the TAs aren't demanding extra-frilly laydeeee skirts for marching in, so that their new gender can be properly affirmed. And camouflage paint involving lots of badly applied eyeliner.

It would be interesting to see whether transwomen demanded skirts. I imagine the policy would change.

Then if someone wanted to wear trousers, the policy would reflect that too.

I wish women had that kind of power.