And so it begins: Transwoman is running for women's officer of NUS

[PosieReturningParker]

Some of her aims:

Gender neutral sex ed
Women in leadership making room for transwomen (because you know how many women are in leadership roles)
BUS accepting transwomen to compete as women in sports

Cool man, at least they will sort of have a strong make leader at last, that should be good for the movement.

Anna is obviously a bloke

Is this type of statement allowed on MN?
I do think it's quite sick that a man can dress up like he is in a Monty Python sketch and then us all actual women have to sit there and accept that he is now 100% a lady too who will speak for women while no one is allowed to make any comments on the fact that he is male.

'NUS is still dominated by men'

Wow - some nerve putting that in!

Oh dear God.

Thing is, transwomen in leadership roles counted as women will even out gender disparity; and eliminate one of the main reasons for the gender pay gap (babies and childcare).

What's not to like? I mean, presuming you are not one of those uterus possessing types who tries to get or stay on the career ladder whilst also having a baby, breastfeeding, then juggling childcare and all the bothersome things like maternity cover which cost the state, institutions, businesses etc money to address. Much easier to show one's commitment to diversity by, at most, installing a gender neutral bathroom, and changing f* all else about the working culture.

really ffs I have just looked at the link

Are we really supposed to accept a man who puts on a dodgy looking wig and dress can speak for women and we women should unite with Anna to fight for our rights women's rights

Not that I think even when a man has gone through hormonal treatment and surgery they are women they are still transwomen they have different issues to women

But this is just ridiculous it's almost becoming farcical

Looking at her manifesto on her facebook page, in nearly every section there's an item about including trans women's rights to be included as women - I'm just not convinced she actually knows or cares about specifically "cis" women's issues.

Also: www.facebook.com/Anna.Charlotte.Lee/posts/482327018631782

Transphobic feminists. Hmm.

I have no issue with men wearing dresses or make up, if that's what they want. The bit I disagree with is when they claim that they're actually really female.

That's where the comedy comes from in Monty Python - it's clearly a man, and he's pretending to be a woman, and that's funny.

A man dressing in clothes that society might be predisposed to consider feminine, is not funny, and should not be mocked.

No more than a woman wearing trousers with short hair should be mocked.

But a man saying he is a lady, is wrong, and therefore I will dispute that assertion, and I might also laugh, though that's probably unkind and uncalled for.

It depends on the circumstances.

These particular circumstances are pretty silly.

Gender neutral loos in clubs - Hmmmm, am I the only one who can see a possible disadvantage to this idea
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/anna-lee/gender-neutral-toilets_b_8227236.html

Can you imagine the vitriol we would get on twitter if we expressed any of these thoughts there?
I wonder whether as (mostly) mothers, MNers are so very aware of the enormous biological differences to people who were biologically male but then claim to be female? Anna seems to get support on her facebook page from women... which is surprising.

I suspect Anna will be voted in unless there is serious competition.

I wonder whether as (mostly) mothers, MNers are so very aware of the enormous biological differences to people who were biologically male but then claim to be female?

I don't think being a mother has anything to do with it at all, and to be honest it is a little patronising to suggest that child free women are less likely to understand the biological differences between men and women.

Yes it is because we should always be nice and accepting of others

If Anna chooses to wear a wig and dress that's up to Anna, do I think Anna passes as a women no. Should Anna because she wears a wig and dress and feels like a women stand as a women and women should accept Anna and fight along side Anna shoulder to shoulder for women's rights FUCK NO she is not a women and never will be

it's like when Caitlyn Jenner first appeared of Vanity Fair we were all meant to congratulate her welcome her into the sisterhood and tell how how wonderful she looked. She didn't look wonderful she looked like a man in drag who has had a lot of plastic surgery

But now CJ can tell us women what it feels like to be a women and get our struggles

How the fuck does gender neutral sex ed work?

Child free women still face discrimination on grounds of being women.

a man can dress up like he is in a Monty Python sketch and then us all actual women have to sit there and accept that he is now 100% a lady too who will speak for women while no one is allowed to make any comments on the fact that he is male.

YES

It is totally ridiculous. Anyone who states the obvious, that Anna is a bloke in a frock, is accused of transphobia. Emperor's new clothes and all that.

There is a lot of in fighting in the movement. Jai Dana Latto has been stripped of Miss Transgender according to the Telegraph.

For not being "transgendered enough", I read. How anyone is meant to define that based on the definition of transgender is beyond me. Apparently it was for wearing the wrong kind of underwear and going to the gym in tshirt and shorts.

'A man can dress up like he is in a Monty Python sketch and then us all actual women have to sit there and accept that he is now 100% a lady too who will speak for women while no one is allowed to make any comments on the fact that he is male.'

YES, THIS.

Anna is clearly not a born woman. But students these days are indeed mad enough to vote for her as women's officer.

It has finally happened - a man as women's officer. Madness.

Head. Wall.

Ffs.

We could start resistance by not referring to transwomen as 'she' and 'her'. At least they still refer to themselves as TRANSwomen - (don't want to give them ideas, though).