proposed legislation in scotland - licensed saunas and legalised prostitution

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A consultation is currently happening in Scotland to make charges to the laws around prostitution, brothel keeping and pimping. No matter what you think - it would be good to have your voice, experiences and opinions heard in this. They have just extended the deadline to the 8th December so if time has been an issue for you - you now have another week!

Responses prepared electronically should be sent by e-mail to:
[email protected]
Responses prepared in hard copy should be sent by post to:
Jean Urquhart MSP
Room M3.20
Scottish Parliament
Edinburgh
EH99 1SP
You may also contact Jean Urquart’s office by telephone on (0131) 348 5052

To me, then, that seems more about it not being a job like any other because it isn't strange that a person could find it hard his partner has sex with others ie sells consent.

No excuse to be an arsehole to you! But I would find it difficult to be with a man who earnt his living that way.

But if it's as mundane as waiting tables to me then how is that not just a normal job?
To me, obviously it's not going to be like waitress to others but nor is being a surgeon or actor and they're considered normal but I would not be capable of doing those and wild freak out

I couldn't be with a guy who sold sex either

I would also find it hard to be in a relationship with someone putting herself at risk of rape and assault every day she goes to work. In fact, I know I couldn't do it.

I would break up with you after trying to see if you'd do a different job, though, not be a bellend to you!

Sapphire, I appreciate that it is like that to you; can you appreciate it might not be like that to a partner?

X post - Eh? So you couldn't be with a guy who sold sex?

I don't get it!

Haha! Our wouldn't get off the ground as I'm happy in my job at the moment!

To be honest I've done this 5 years and not had even a hint of a problem. One client said I'd gained weight, that's the height of the trauma I've experienced through sex work.
Outside of sex work however I have known and experienced some not so nice men.

Women experience violence from partners at a very high rate. You're far more at risk from a boyfriend than a client

Why are you trying to convince me a man wouldn't want to be with a sex worker? Of course I'm fully aware of that. Lol
Some are fine with it like one of my more recent exes but majority are not.

Why do you think I'd want to be in a relationship with a sex worker? I'd be too jealous so no I wouldn't
Same reason guys may not want a relationship with a sex worker

I think you've gotten confused. My explanation of sex work as being nothing more than a job to me had nothing to do with relationships.
I was talking about how I find sex work myself and I'm not in a relationship

None of my exes and me broke up bcos of sex work,? I think you've misunderstood there, wasn't with my ex at the time I thought he hated my independce from him

I've known men despise me for what I do and I felt it was that way because of the freedom and independence I have which they didn't like

I rather doubt that is the reason. I have been financially independent my entire adult life. I'm aware many regular posters on here think I live in a bit of a bubble but I have never experienced being despised by men because of it.

some patriarchal men have a hatred/disgust for prostitution is because of the independence it brings some women?

My husband finds prostitution disgusting because he finds the idea of renting women for sex and the men who do it disgusting.

Lass

The first part was regarding an ex and there were reasons and past history I gathered that was why he was behaving as such.

And your second point

Please tell me where I said that is the only possible reason someone would despise a sex worker?

It's funny how many clients wives would probably think their husbands were of the same opinion as yours to be honest.
It's unusual for guys to be truly honest about their views on sex work in public.
All I can say is most clients I see are just ordinary, your brothers, guy on check out at sainsburys, accountants, boring old golfer dad's and bus drivers, they're all the average client.
It's generally that old cliché of if someone protests a tad too strongly it's suspicious

Sapphire, you are quite difficult to talk to. I'm going to take a break.

Strange

It's generally that old cliché of if someone protests a tad too strongly it's suspicious

Yes, I agree.

But TBH, I'm getting the impression that applies to your vehement defence of prostitution too.

Haha as in I'm really some coerced trafficking victim? Fortunately not
It's a shame that a sensible non extremist conversation about prostitution couldn't be had here. But thank you for the views anyway.
Clearly best to just accept we disagree, and that's fine,,spice of life and all that ,

My husband's reaction was in relation to the documentary about legal brothels in Germany.
His reaction to it was the same initial disbelief such conditions existed turning to shock as many FWR posters have expressed.

No Sapphire: I did not imply that. As in your defence of prostitution generally.

"My husband finds prostitution disgusting because he finds the idea of renting women for sex and the men who do it disgusting."

Well personal opinions of what you or your husband find disgusting is not worth anything when it comes to deciding if the law should be changed or not.

The safety of those working in the sex industry is far more important than your personal preferences of what you find disgusting.

"OneMoreCasualty Thu 10-Dec-15 14:10:41
Calling posters a load of useless fools is a personal attack. I'm not going to report it because but it would be deleted if reported."

Perhaps you missed the post where a feminist on here made a false rape allegation against a user on here? Feminists might disagree but I think maliciously calling someone a rapist is far worse than calling someone a useless fool.

And I'm sure falsely calling someone a rapist online would be covered by libel/defamation laws.

"PlaysWellWithOthers" the mumsnet user who falsely makes rape allegations.