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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Charlotte Proudman

191 replies

JeanSeberg · 10/09/2015 13:37

www.theguardian.com/law/2015/sep/08/charlotte-proudman-alexander-carter-silk-linkedin-photo-comment-law-firms

Good for her.

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YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 06:43
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JAPAB · 16/09/2015 08:55

PlaysWellWithOthers
No, because he's not a complete and utter wank spangle because he understands, where you completely fail to, what sexism actually is.

In which case he ought to agree with the point I said that I'd hope he would :)

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 16/09/2015 09:10

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MephistophelesApprentice · 16/09/2015 12:40

I think that if you're going to compliment a picture on a website for professionals, you'd better make damn clear that you're commenting on the photography, position and lighting rather than the subject.

I also think that if you're going to broadcast an example of a sexist message it's a good idea, but make sure all names and details are excised.

PlaysWellWithOthers · 16/09/2015 13:00

No JAPAB, but you know that.

And jfi Allman, MREs rarely inject anything of value into anything.

YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 19:12

"but make sure all names and details are excised"

Why?

PlaysWellWithOthers · 16/09/2015 19:19

If you'd bothered to read why she did that, Meph, you'd understand why she didn't excise names and details.

YonicScrewdriver · 16/09/2015 20:09

"you'd better make damn clear that you're commenting on the photography, position and lighting rather than the subject. "

Do you think he meant that, but wasn't clear enough?

YouAreTheOmnishambles · 16/09/2015 20:36

She wrote a fab article in the Guardian today that makes me want to give her a standing ovation: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/16/charlotte-proudman-women-sexist-misogyny

"Calling out a single instance of sexism in a professional space hit a nerve far deeper than I ever imagined. Why has one tweet that sought to challenge the objectification of women in professional spaces caused a furore? The truth is, I have committed a double transgression. Not only have I refused to passively accept being objectified; I have also refused to apologise for having the temerity to take a stand. What I did therefore was doubly threatening to vested power. It is a tragic irony that the misogynist abuse I have endured is an attempt to reassert the patriarchal status quo, in which women in the public space are to be seen but not heard"

I get hit on approximately once a month on linked in by men I don't know, who don't work in my field, and it's often not even attempting to be professional, but just something about how hot my photo is (my square-on, head and shoulders passport style photo. It's not facebook, I can't exactly use a picture of my cat, so I have to go with the face I have). The brighter ones at least try and dress it up as if they're interested in connecting because we could work together, even though our fields are entirely unrelated. I would love to be able to bin it off, but it's become all but compulsory these days. All power to Charlotte for refusing to play along. I despair that people seem determined to make this her fault.

YouAreTheOmnishambles · 16/09/2015 21:11

Actually, I just re-read my post and want to rephrase because it contains an error.

I don't get "hit on" once a month. Actually, once a month I am harassed at a low but nevertheless irritating and unnecessary level by what I can only conclude are unpleasant and sexist men while I'm just trying to do my job. They would say they are complimenting me. They are not. I do not give a shiny shite about their opinion on how I look on my professional profile on a professional website which is intended to let people know my professional credentials, and I don't owe them any kind of civilized response.

It's draining, and I had hoped at forty-two years of age my tenure as Potential Sex Object was drawing to a close, but clearly I'm not there yet. I'll have to stop moisturising ( Wink )

AskBasil · 16/09/2015 22:22

"I think that if you're going to compliment a picture on a website for professionals, you'd better make damn clear that you're commenting on the photography, position and lighting rather than the subject."

Do you agree with Mr Creepy that commenting on the photography, position and lighting is politically incorrect? I don't. But then, it wasn't the photography he was commenting on, that wouldn't give him the power kick would it.

ChunkyPickle · 16/09/2015 23:10

Don't read the comments, don't read the comments..

it's feminist bingo - I had to stop when I got to the 'set back feminist cause 200 years, alienating men who would otherwise be supporters' AKA 'I'd support feminism if only they were nice about it'

MephistophelesApprentice · 17/09/2015 12:42

AskBasil

I agree, the man in question is a moron of questionable competency.

herethereandeverywhere · 17/09/2015 12:55

Agreed chunky pickle.

or

"I'd support feminism so long as they continue to let me letch on them and don't spoil my fun by publicising it".

CheezyBlasters · 18/09/2015 08:54

The people from the legal procession who are criticising her should be ashamed. It is them who bring an already sexist profession into disrepute.

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