I am not Feminist

[Muslim786]

I would like to mention several facts about feminists. Agree or not, at least try to ponder about it:

1. Feminists are rude

1. They tend to be rich or upper middle class

1. They over-analyze everything which men do. So now a man cannot even open his mouth to pass a little comment or say something ordinary without thinking twice or thrice how his feminist-influenced wife will scream "misogynist" and create an argument out of nothing.

1. Feminists want political power

Now before you swarm me with negative comments (I hope I'm wrong in anticipating that) I would like to say that the feminists of old days were much better. They were concerned with human dignity and good treatment of women. They deserve to be saluted. Why modern feminists are not willing to negotiate or compromise?

Please I am asking this question very sincerely and do not want to create any kind of social disturbance.

I'd love to hear a few examples of these little comments.

Have reported the thread as the obvious troll thread it is. I suggest we all ignore and do more interesting things with our time.

"Hi. I am posting in this forum to say that i am not rude, rich, overanayzer and i dont want power, unlike the lot of you. Why cant you be like me and compromise? Oh and please dont flame me, i just want to discuss"

Seriously op this is how you come across. I dont know if this is your intention or not but it is definitely not the right way to start a discussion.

Please I am asking this question very sincerely and do not want to create any kind of social disturbance.

I think you misunderstand the word "question".

You aked no question, merely made statements.

...what I call trying to have some debate and challenging your tidy little views.

'What I call'

You're flattering yourself if you think you're saying anything remotely challenging - this is all stuff feminist have heard a zillion times before, and continue to disagree with.

Women compromise every single day of their lives. Way, way more than men will ever have to.

I always think that if men like you - so appalled at the idea of women challenging your privilege - had been born female, you'd be the most rabid, frothing feminist out there. What with actually having something to complain about. You have no idea, mate.

Grape juice??!!!
Oh, this changes everything...

*"Where is daddy in your scenario?"

Non-existent thanks to feminism
*

That is the stupidest thing i have read in a long time.

I am not rude. In fact I pride myself on my manners.
I am not upper or upper middle class.
I do not over analyse every thing men do - I consider the position of each person and consider if they are equally placed.
I do want political power to be equally balanced and representative to / of everyone.
I have a happy husband who shares my views, I have children who are never in a house alone (too young).
I am also a feminist. I am proud to be one. You are entitled to your opinion but others are entitled to challenge it.

Yawn

But who paid for the grape juice!?

Perhaps the OP needs a bit more information about what it means to be a feminist rather than just being shouted down?

It seems to me that the OP is probably of the view that good manners, treating women nicely and politely (e.g. opening doors etc), being around for the children whilst they're young and not jumping on every comment and shouting "sexist!" are all important. I suspect many on the feminism boards would agree but they isn't always the message that comes across.

How about educating posters like this?

TwerkingSpinster - the grape juice was doubtless funded by hardworking taxpayers

prepperpig Have at it. I wish you well.

I bet the banished father has to buy the wicked single mothers grape juice, even though he has manly things to be spending his hard earned cash on. Wimmin. spits

I can't, I'm not sure I understand where the feminism posts are coming from half the time. I suspect this is where the OP is too but she has expressed it in a way which has antagonised.

Gosh, I hope your username wasn't chosen because you thought it would make you seem more believable.

Because that would be very racist.

Pepperpig i think that in general providing information is the way to go. However if someone starts a thread on a board stating as a fact that that group of ppl are rude or that their views a creating families with unsuppervised children and abscent fathers i am not sure where to start.

Nobody is preventing you from educating the OP, if you want to. Anyone can. Nobody has to. Adults are capable of educating themselves. There is more information out there on the net than you could read in ten lifetimes. If you want to add to that, great. I am sure the OP would want to read anything you wanted to educate him on.

I am, like you, of the view that good manners are important. I think treating everyone nicely and politely is important. I think children do need parents to be there for them as they grow up. I'm not sure how any of those things are in any way prevented by feminism.

The only thing I would disagree on is the 'not jumping on every comment and shouting sexist' thing. If something is sexist, someone should absolutely say so. If something is racist, same thing. If something is disablist, same thing. People have a choice to think about what they say and the meaning behind their words. If they don't want to come across in a particular way, that is within their control. What they can't do, is say something that is or appears to be sexist/racist/etc and then moan about someone saying hang on a minute...

prepperpig The OP is a man. They aren't genuinely looking for information, they just want some bias confirmation.

If he wants to learn about feminism, he has only to ask. He doesn't, he wants to laugh at the silly women.

Puffins that makes a lot of sense. How else can one explain a post that blames abscent fathers on feminism?

OP, it took me a minute to actually find your question amidst the noise of unfounded accusations, silly generalisations, and general patronising lazy bullshit. But I assume it's this: "Why modern feminists are not willing to negotiate or compromise?"

So - disregarding the fact that modern feminists compromise and negotiate all the fucking time what is it you would like feminists to compromise on? Violence against women and girls? Rape? Pay equality? Reproductive rights? I'm absolutely gagging to find out...

Feminism has eradicated men entirely, leaving only grape juice in their place???? Who knew??

Bye bye, Mr Troll.

Reading through you're comments it is very sad that hardly anyone had anything constructive to offer. Apart from prepperpig everyone else's comments seem to express a deep seated hostility and absolute refusal to have an open mind. Prepperpig if you are reading this I think there is potential for the two of us to have a constructive dialogue. You seem to be open minded and genuine. I think you will find that I am also.

Uglyswan...I don't think anyone is asking women to compromise about issues like violence or rape. That much is obvious.

But there is room for discussion, compromise and fresh choices about how women should be encouraged to dress, how to make compromises between husband and wife relationship and giving priority to raising kids rather than pursuing a career. Furthermore, the divisive politics of feminism is regrettably becoming mainstreamed and subtly promoted by mainstream liberal media, especially Huffington Post in the online world. Many conservative people (who make up the majority of humanity) are alarmed at these social and political developments that have very dangerous implications. I think we should sit down and negotiate some compromise. If you are a reasonable person I think you would at least agree to that.

What do you mean by "how women should be encouraged to dress"?

Can you give me an example?