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Uppatea · 22/02/2015 22:50

Hello just a quick question about this blog. I sporadically visit and binge read loads of posts. One of my absolute favourites. I just tried and it is now marked as private and locked, requiring me to log in. Does anyone know how I can access it again?

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 24/02/2015 08:48

When an individual is a dangerous woman-hating male who has stalked and doxxed a woman and her children, and hounded her off social media altogether, then no, I'm not going to be courteous to them, however they identify.
I agree. No matter what MNHQ thinks, I do not want to call a woman-hating male individual who threatens women and their children "she".

I hope Glosswitch and her children are ok. This harassment and silencing of feminists online shouldn't be allowed to go on.

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 24/02/2015 09:06

Although I understand not wanting to call this person 'she', I'm with Knickerful and MNHQ here. Keep the moral high ground - and keep this forum relatively free - by being respectful, however much we disagree with this individual's actions.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 09:10

Christ. I can't believe this. Nowhere is safe.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 09:11

Not that I expect anywhere on the internet to be safe, but still.

ApocalypseThen · 24/02/2015 09:12

I know. I find the idea of someone silently watching to monitor us for language and make reports very, very creepy.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 24/02/2015 09:15

Mutual respect is excellent and I always prefer the presumption that other people are decent and we should treat them as we would wish to be treated. But when a man bullies women and all the other women put his desires about how they should refer to him, above their own right to free discourse about that man, I think we have a problem.

We are allowing ourselves to be bullied; personally I am finding this excessively triggering - I just can't hack it. I'm out.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 09:16

And that the person monitoring is more concerned by pronoun use than by someone threatening a writer's children.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 09:16

TheCountessofFitz I understand completely. Thanks

WhatWouldFreddieDo · 24/02/2015 09:53

I understand too, but why give 'them' the satisfaction? Keep posting, keep calling them out on appalling, criminal behaviour, just don't give them any pathetic excuse to shut us down.

They will not be able to redefine what 'woman' or 'she' means as long as we are able to discuss and debate - and MN is one of the few places we can still do that.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 10:00

"And that the person monitoring is more concerned by pronoun use than by someone threatening a writer's children."

Not at all, Annie, just as someone reporting the use of "shirt lifter" about a gay doxxer wouldn't be more concerned about that than the doxxing.

Also it's unfair to describe them as silently monitoring - it may be someone who has already posted, or is a FWR or other MN regular or it may be that MNHQ routinely keep an eye on threads relating to trans these days, or that one of them read the thread as GW is on the MN blogger register and they were interested.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 10:05

I do understand why MN and somevhere are saying "be respectful", but I find it so hard to stomach. It seems that however much women are stalked and attacked, however much that women are hurt, however much their children are threatened, the onus on women is always, always to be "nice" and "respectful" towards the people who attack them. I am reminded of my mother, sitting there with broken glasses, bruised legs and cigarette burns in her hair, telling me not to say anything to my dad for doing this as it might provoke him. This isn't in any way new, but by god I am so sick of it I can barely stand it.

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 10:07

Knickerful you can't compare someone saying "he" with someone saying "shirt-lifter".

BuffytheThunderLizard · 24/02/2015 10:09

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ChoochiWoo · 24/02/2015 10:10

What does doxxing mean?

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 10:12

Archery, yes I can.

As far as MNHQ is concerned, referring to a trans person by something other than their chosen pronoun breaks talk guidelines just as much as using "shirt lifter" would. They are clear about that. They are jointly responsible for anything published on their site and they delete anything that breaches their guidelines.

It doesn't matter whether you or I agree which words are offensive and which aren't. Just phrase posts without those words - for example, by using DLT's name or initials - and we can all continue.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 10:13

Sorry, Annie, I responded to your second post without seeing your first Flowers

Choochi, it means revealing someone else's personal details.

ISaySteadyOn · 24/02/2015 10:15

Doxxing is publishing a person's details online, name, address, etc without their consent and wuth intent to harm, I think. Someone correct me uf I'm wrong.

ISaySteadyOn · 24/02/2015 10:16

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ChoochiWoo · 24/02/2015 10:17

Oh right ,thats shocking,brings home how 'out there' you are on the Internet what kicked all that off then ? All this pronoun stuff?

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 10:38

Unlikely it was just that, Choochi.

But yes, GW is a target for transactivists, some of whom have big issues with women discussing matters such as abortion, FGM etc.

AFAIK, the majority of trans people don't have issues with things like pregnancy or prostate cancer being discussed with reference to biological sex.

ChoochiWoo · 24/02/2015 11:01

Why is she a target though has some particularly anti trans.stuff been posted? I not.suggesting that excuses DLT but just want to understand. Its odd they'd have a problem withose issues.

scallopsrgreat · 24/02/2015 11:13

Glosswitch is generally very careful about using the pronoun of preference for someone. But she does challenge the trans gender/sex/lady brain and queer theories. Which some trans do not like. Her last blog post was talking about how maternal deaths was not a gender neutral thing just because some women identify as men.

ChoochiWoo · 24/02/2015 12:10

Oh right , Confused ok...this whole transactivist thing just blows my mind completely its hard to keep up. I hope she gets justice for her and her children.

grimbletart · 24/02/2015 12:44

I understand MN has to be careful because it is responsible for what is said on its sites.

But there is something seriously wrong with a world where a person can be threatened, doxxed and driven off the internet by an individual even though she has done nothing wrong, while the rest of us have to grovel before the wishes of the individual responsible for committing the wrong.

I've heard of bending over backwards to placate - that's bad enough - but this is twisting ourselves in knots to crawl around an obnoxious individual who has no concept of proper behaviour. It is beyond pathetic.

When are women going to stop being such a soft touch?

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