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Uppatea · 22/02/2015 22:50

Hello just a quick question about this blog. I sporadically visit and binge read loads of posts. One of my absolute favourites. I just tried and it is now marked as private and locked, requiring me to log in. Does anyone know how I can access it again?

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MrsSquirrel · 23/02/2015 15:43

Terrible news. I too am a Glosswitch fan.

For those who are interested here is a link to her New Statesman column. A new post added today, so she is still writing, thank goodness.

Smartleatherbag · 23/02/2015 16:13

I love glosswitch, she's amazing. Gutted Sad.

AskBasil · 23/02/2015 18:37

She is absolutely brilliantly marvellous.

glad her column at NS is still there

IonaMumsnet · 23/02/2015 21:32

Evening all. Just a note to say that we've had to make a couple of deletions that we felt were transphobic as they were deliberately misgendering. Regardless of what the person has or hasn't done, we can't allow comments like that to stand we're afraid. We really don't want to have to delete this thread which has some lovely comments on it for Glosswitch, so if you could bear this in mind on any future posts we'd be very grateful.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/02/2015 21:47

Iona, SERIOUSLY?????

TheAwfulDaughter · 23/02/2015 21:48

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PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/02/2015 21:51

Countess... while I agree with the sentiments expressed in the deleted posts, MN is one of the very very few places on the web where we can have rational discussions about trans issues, they walk a fine line between allowing discussion and being seen to condone what, to some, could be viewed as transphobia. Misgendering is seen as literally erasing them. It pays to be slightly cautious in order to be able to have this space, maybe?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/02/2015 21:56

There is as yet no law to say we have to accept an individual's view of their own gender. This is just giving way to bullying.

ApocalypseThen · 23/02/2015 22:02

I'm sure a complaint about misgendering must have been made to draw Iona's attention to it. In the context of the behaviour being discussed and the outcome of that behaviour, it certainly appears that some people have very odd priorities.

Lovecat · 23/02/2015 22:13

Phobia. Having an overwhelming and debilitating fear of an object, place, situation, feeling or animal - according to the NHS Choices site.

By that definition I don't believe I'm transphobic and neither was the pronoun that I posted - I'm not afraid of trans people. I know and socialise with a fully transitioned trans woman and I have no problem calling her 'she' and referring to her as a woman.

However I don't think a person such as Dana Lane Taylor, who has veered between identifying as transvestite, transexual and a bloke called David Taylor in their time, has any kind of body dysmorphia, rather that they are a dangerous woman-hating individual. "Misgendering" this excuse for a human being pales into insignificance beside the harm they have done and continue to do, all the while screaming 'transphobe!' at anyone who disagrees with them in order to silence them.

MN, I'm disappointed.

Lovecat · 23/02/2015 22:15

And in case someone reports that comment, please pass on my best wishes to Glosswitch, she is an amazing writer and I'm sorry that she has had to lock down her blog.

PuffinsAreFictitious · 23/02/2015 22:39

OTOH

The mentality of a poster who reports some posts when they use a couple of letters wrongly, when those pronouns were being used about a person who has a long track record of really serious abuse, stalking and hacking is highly questionable.

And no, I'm not fucking transphobic, what I am is angry that a small, but vocal and seemingly endlessly influential group of trans*women who want to usurp and bulldoze women in order to make sure they are seen as the main, or indeed only, topic of feminism

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/02/2015 22:56

If we can't use male pronouns here then are we nevertheless allowed to analyse Lane Taylor's behaviour as part of the patterns of male stalking and harassment of women, and men silencing women? Serious question.

BuffytheThunderLizard · 23/02/2015 23:10

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almondcakes · 23/02/2015 23:22

There has been discussions of trans activism on MN for years, and certainly a poster threatened to report Dittany to the police over language use. MN had to look at the legal issues around discussions and have some rules (which I think they did clarify at one point). It is sticking to a standard of courtesy that allows these discussions to happen on MN at all. The rule about using correct pronouns has been in place for a long time.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 23/02/2015 23:36

I remember Earwicga. Her threats were quite spectacularly empty.

lucymam · 23/02/2015 23:48

These are all ways to shut feminists up. Anyone going to the Nottingham event about No Platforming?

ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 05:20

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ArcheryAnnie · 24/02/2015 05:24

But in case that one above is deleted, too - I take my hat off to Glosswitch, who had her entire, excellent, necessary body of work taken offline (ie not just one post) because of this abusive person. She's magnificent, and I hope if she ever needs support from us, she finds a way of coming here and asking for it.

MadameLeBean · 24/02/2015 06:22

mumsnet really?? Is nowhere immune to this madness..

ChoochiWoo · 24/02/2015 06:31

Just googled DLT ....quite a history i read something about exposing themselves to women and children and only narrowly missing out being on the register, why are they not in prison?

FrenchLimeBlossom · 24/02/2015 06:34

I was starting to suspect something of the sort when the blog was locked down - such a shame as her writing is wonderful. I really hope that she feels able to bring it back at some point - I've learned so much about what I think from reading and thinking about Glosswitch's posts and articles.

Just awful for her and her family to be put through such treatment simply because she is a woman expressing her own opinion online.

andiewithanie · 24/02/2015 07:53

the take home lesson from this is that the gender pronouns of people who were (or still are, depending on your level of pomo) male, must be respected. even if the continue to behave exactly like abusive men.

lucymam · 24/02/2015 08:32

I remember reading articles about a M2F who had raped a child, and transactivists were complaining because a news article had called them a he.

AKnickerfulOfMenace · 24/02/2015 08:42

MNHQ have picked a line on this and they stick to it. I'm sure they'd delete posts about a homosexual criminal that referred to them as a shirt lifter or similar. By doing so, they wouldn't be excusing the crime or saying the language was worse than a crime.

If you aren't comfortable with pronouns, phrase it using DLT's name always.

Thanks again MNHQ for more freedom to discuss than many places.

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