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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminist Pub X: Regulars and new faces welcome, consciousness raising is a possibility.

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CaptChaos · 30/08/2014 00:33

The old pub now has less than 10 posts to go, so I thought I'd start a new one. The old one can be found here

This is a place for feminist pom pom waving and talking about stuff which might not need a thread for itself.

Fill your boots.

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OublietteBravo · 05/09/2014 21:11

Ellen McArthur is a really good suggestion.

Or maybe Claire Taylor (who he's met - I know her from university) - especially as cricket is popular at his school (Alastair Cook is an alumnus).

UptoapointLordCopper · 05/09/2014 21:15

Oh no! I can't make the meet-up tomorrow!

BuffyBotRebooted · 05/09/2014 21:16

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WhatWitchcraftIsThis · 05/09/2014 21:22

Um back to puddings, this American loves them. I also learned to make my own mincemeat candied peel and fruit cakes and xmas puds since moving here. By November it's like Santa's grotto round mine

MIncemeat you buy in America is shit as is our fruit cake though, so I think some people trying the shop stuff are put off by how bad it is.

WhatWitchcraftIsThis · 05/09/2014 21:25

Why not Lord?

Also minor feminist annoyance.
You know the " that's why mums go to iceland" adverts. Just saw one with Peter Andre and because he really loves his kids it was going to say "That's why dads go to Iceland" except is said "That's why Peter goes to Iceland"

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/09/2014 21:32

Oh, no. Sad

BertieBotts · 05/09/2014 21:32

What kind of thing is he interested in Oubliette?

I have had THE longest day. DS' best friend's mum asked me to pick him up from kiga because she is ill. I offered to keep him until dinner, because she is pregnant and sisterhood and such. And it was fine, I didn't mind at all, but by god, those two are tiring when they are together. DS' friend did a monster poo and we got accosted by a homeless man and my excuse that I don't speak German was quickly assauged by the ever so helpful children so then I had a homeless person badgering me through children to give him money to eat because he's a catholic and not an alcoholic and I'm like, um, could you maybe ask somebody who doesn't have two small children with them?

Then had to fight off questions like "How much money does he need? I have some, I can give it to him!" "Why aren't we allowed to talk to that man?" Actually he came across quite genuinely and I felt bad but seriously? Would you approach someone with two children?

Then had to herd two blood sugar crashed whirlwinds through the supermarket, who thought it was super fun to run in circles up and down the escalators. And yes I was "that parent" and didn't give a shit when they dumped random products in random places, because TBH, I was just glad they weren't bumping into doddery old people or big displays of expensive wine.

Eventually got out alive. Got home and after playing nicely for a while DS announces he wants a poo, and then has absolute utter meltdown screaming fit at me because he thinks he's missing out on the really fun activity of choosing a DVD. So ends up losing various privileges until I remember to do the parenting book thing at him and start saying "Yes I can see you're really mad at me. You're telling me you don't need a poo. You want to choose the DVD." and the friend is saying all concernedly "I think you should listen to your mom and go do a poo!" Blush

Anyway. Jeez. They eventually calm down until the friend pulls DS' hair because he won't give back a bit of toy. I micromanaged and then their dinner was ready and then finally I could drop him home (on the train, because we don't have a car, and with DS, because DH wasn't home yet).

Oh and DS taught his friend "bitch". But I don't think he realised that he'd said a bad word so maybe that's not so bad Hmm

It was DS' bedtime when we got home thank god Grin But DH was ver unreasonable and didn't buy me beer ready and waiting.

(Sorry for the total off topic rant. Please resume usual service!)

PetulaGordino · 05/09/2014 21:39

oubliette no i wasn't, but that would have been funny! i was at a conference and afterwards took some holiday. we hired bikes and cycled all over, and got a train to roskilde for the viking stuff. it was lovely - a really laid-back place

PetulaGordino · 05/09/2014 21:40

blimey bertie. feel tired just reading that

BecauseIsaidS0 · 05/09/2014 21:47

Because I'm old and a computer scientist, I've been around since pretty much the early days of the Internetz, when it was just a bunch of academic geeks sharing bad jokes on Usenet fora. I miss those days; with every technological iteration (AOL, broadband, Web 2.0) the whole thing gets dumber and more mysoginistic.

BecauseIsaidS0 · 05/09/2014 21:49

...and my point was that in the very early days of remote multiplayer gaming (MUDs anyone?) the atmosphere wasn't that sexist and players would often call out when they saw others misbehaving. Nowadays rape threats seem par the course Sad

OutsSelf · 05/09/2014 22:13

I used to be a gamer but am not great at self-regulation so haven't played for.a long time. I used to love open ended games like SimCity etc.

I was at a lovely conference this week. I've been trying to catch up with the blackface thread to comment but just keep coming off it to bogle.

My childcare has fallen through for tomorrow! So I'm bringing the rampaging DC ha ha. Which potentially means two minutes of conversation for every ten minutes of shrill parenting... I did so want to impress you all with my reasoned debate but alas I am not terrifically reasonable in full herding cat mode.

CaptChaos · 05/09/2014 22:25

Outself, your DCs are delightful, there will be lots of other DCs there as well, so they can probably do some of the cat herding for you! The blackface thread is awful, just awful.

Flora, you have been vindicated to an extent. It seemed that Mr Abused was not all he seemed, probably thought he'd come here and try his shenanigans. But I see you have a special friend like Buffy's. Sometimes I think the only 'safe space' on MN is FWR!

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OutsSelf · 05/09/2014 22:29

Thanks Capt, they are pleased to be coming Smile

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/09/2014 22:31

outs, this smacks of false modesty - I have met you, and seen you in action on the Butler thread!

I will enjoy seeing your DC.

BertieBotts · 05/09/2014 22:33

Huh, is this the "male choke victim" thread? I haven't opened it but keep side eyeing it in active.

Aww, will miss you all meeting up! I'll make another event some time.

CaptChaos · 05/09/2014 22:40

Yes Bertie. It appears he was not all he seemed to be.

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Sabrinnnnnnnna · 05/09/2014 22:41

I just knew that "male abuse victim" poster was not what he seemed. The way he laid into Flora, and seemed to know just a bit too much about 'what sort of poster she was' Hmm

I would have posted but the backface thread had sucked all my energy - and now the thread's gorn thank gawd.

PetulaGordino · 05/09/2014 22:43

Are you in forrin parts Bertie?

I will miss the meet up too, which I am sad about. Was supposed to have family stuff but Dp and I need I have a Deep and Meaningful discussion about my career development and finances rather urgently so we have cancelled in order to sit down in front of the laptop together

WinifredTheLostDenver · 05/09/2014 23:00

Good luck, Petula.

gincamparidryvermouth · 05/09/2014 23:02

the "male choke victim" thread? I haven't opened it but keep side eyeing it in active

I did have reservations from the moment I read the title, and I think any female born person who frequents the "relationships" board will understand where my skepticism came from.

It seems very sad that there are no support sites for male victims of female violence, given that women beating men is apparently such a thing. Women should really get on that.

Dragonlette · 05/09/2014 23:31

I'm not going to be at the meet up either, not that I even knew it was happening til just now. Nobody will even notice or care that I'm not there Sad I'm so much further North than any of you that I don't think I'll ever get to a meet. Sad

I half read that male abuse thread when it was still quite short and I had a feeling all was not as it seemed. He just didn't read like any of the threads I've read from dv victims, and he couldn't have been further from my ex-sil when she was trying to accept that her relationship was abusive.

scallopsrgreat · 05/09/2014 23:45

What meet up is this?

CaptChaos · 05/09/2014 23:49

Dragon letter you and I can do a northern feminists meet up at some point. I'm moving into the wilds of the north this week!

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Dragonlette · 05/09/2014 23:51

Yay, capt! The North is great! How far North are you coming? I'm in Cumbria so we're almost into Scotland.