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#Yesallwomen reaches one million tweets!

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Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 10:59

This has been started in response to the massacre and anti women manifesto by Elliot Rodgers. Makes for interesting reading...

www.people.com/article/yes-all-women-hashtag-movement-santa-barbara-shooting

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CaptChaos · 28/05/2014 22:17

Really Jassy? That's almost the most amazing thing I have ever read on MN! I might even turn off my tea and kittens to have a look. I do hope it has achieved something, an awakening that it's not just hairy arm-pitted braless feminist harridans who need to take account of misogyny or who have experienced it in their lives. That it's not the preserve of a down trodden few, but is the everyday lived experience of a majority of women.

22honey · 28/05/2014 22:19

Its quite funny how several posters on this thead have now admitted that they are white and middle class, after terrorising me about it with 'how do you know anyone on this forum is a white middle class, it must be because of their writing, that means you think non white people cannot write you racist etc etc'

Kind of explains the fury to every opinion I have had, not based on logic but based on the fact they are offended by my opinions and stating of facts about middle class women (ie they are 3 times less likely to be a victim of abuse than poorer women)

JassyRadlett · 28/05/2014 22:20

It's imperfect, of course, but it's something! Headline is 'California virgin killer's misogynist rants inspire Twitter campaign #YesAllWomen'

So, yeah. Still Daily Mail, right there.

CaptChaos · 28/05/2014 22:25

I hardly thought they were going to don sack cloth and wear ashes and tell everyone that they have been wrong about women all this time, and start taking on a feminist editorial team, but hey! It's a start! No doubt they'll be back on their 'seeeeeeeeeeeeee! All women are bastards!' trip again soon enough.

JassyRadlett · 28/05/2014 22:28

I read all the way to the end expecting the women-hating to be slipped in somewhere. Maybe Paul Dacre's on holiday.

RamsaySnowsSausage · 28/05/2014 22:30

Just to clarify that it was me who said 'Women are treated as inferior'.

And what I meant by that is 'Women are treated as inferior'. It did not need a 'some' as it is talking about women as a class, not every single individual. You can compound the inequality with race, income/class etc. but it was not relevant to my point.

Back to the OP, I keep popping to Twitter and the hashtag is still going strong...over 270 new tweets in the time it's taken to write this. From what I can see very little is trolling and every nasty comment has challengers. It's brilliant to see.

It's great to see so many men involved and so many women able to express and share their experience, worries and support.

That this has been such a big thing is really encouraging. A lot of the posts are sad or terrifying but the scale is somehow very comforting.

Feminism is becoming 'cool' and popular. Many people absolutely hate that but their arguments are few and being constantly challenged.

I'm feeling feministly-optimistic and that's a raaaaaare thing Smile

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 28/05/2014 22:31

I left school at 16.

I was on free lunch and food stamps

I suffered male violence my whole life.

I still think you're incredibly obnoxious and ill informed and like most people who haven't got anything of value to say... awfully loud about saying nothing at all.

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 28/05/2014 22:35

ramsay I think every single woman is treated inferior. Not even as a class. Individuals.

If you took (for example) a white middle class 35 year old woman and compared her to a white middle class 35 year old male, she'd had been treated as though she were less that man.

It's about comparing like for like.

A black 27 year old woman from a working class back ground, against a 27 year old black male of similar back grounds. She will be the one of the two who is inferior.

Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 22:41

Bloody ell, The Daily Fail??

I guess if a story's big enough they can't ignore it?

Will go have a look...

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Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 22:51

Oh my eyes, my eyes! Scrolled thro loads of DM tripe but couldn't find that bloody article...

< Sad face >

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RamsaySnowsSausage · 28/05/2014 22:54

Yes, I agree RFFU #YesAllWomen

JassyRadlett · 28/05/2014 22:54

Oh Scarlet are you asking me to link to the Daily Mail?

I'm not sure I can do it.

RamsaySnowsSausage · 28/05/2014 23:00

I'll take one for the team

Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 23:04

Ooh noo! I did find it eventually, so sorry you had to do that! I think this use of Twitter is bloody fantastic, giving women a voice that they have long been denied. Liked the comments by the men that were highlighted in that article too. It's not just a problem that affects women and sometimes I despair that men don't always see that.

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CaptChaos · 28/05/2014 23:07

Don't read the commentssssssssssssssssssss!

My eyessssss, my eyes!!! Sad

Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 23:09

Here's a link to the tweets.

Bloody brilliant!

mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/YesAllWomen?src=hash

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JassyRadlett · 28/05/2014 23:12

Chaos!! Never ever read the bottom half of the internet!

BriarRainbowshimmer · 28/05/2014 23:13

Thanks to that DM sidebar I could read about sexual harassment and read sexually objectifying descriptions & photos at the same time!

JassyRadlett · 28/05/2014 23:16

Reading the hashtag timeline is so wonderful. Hugely diverse voices and experiences, speaking and being heard.

CaptChaos · 28/05/2014 23:19

Jassy, I know, I know. I lost my head there in a fit of, the Daily Hate is being fluffy, maybe the commentators will be too, euphoria. I am suitably chastened! However, a quick womble through some more tweets has set me on an even keel again.

Briar... what a bargain! I wonder if they know or care that that's what they've done?

Sorry, stupid of me!

Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 23:27

So in the interests of balance here's a link to a Guardian article about #yes

It's v good

( but don't read the comments at the bottom...)

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Scarletohello · 28/05/2014 23:28

Ha! Forgot the bloody link.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/28/yesallwomen-barage-sexism-elliot-rodger

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 28/05/2014 23:35

I agree that it's uplifting to see so many serious, supportive tweets Jassy.

BriarRainbowshimmer · 28/05/2014 23:36

Very sad at the same time. But at least people are speaking up

Downamongtherednecks · 28/05/2014 23:42

Loved the hashtag timeline. Deceptively simple and eloquent, multiple female experiences in 140 characters -- but then I started thinking about Maya Angelou's last tweet and started crying again.

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