This is fucking disgraceful (Daily Mail)

[rootypig]

Daily Mail is framing a teenage girl as being at the root of the Santa Barbara shootings, because she 'teased' the perpetrator (according to his 'manifesto'). They have posted pictures of her (with her face pixelated, some concession), in varying states of undress, of course (bikinis, short shorts, things that best fit the narrative).

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2639555/Meet-model-named-Santa-Barbara-killer-reason-saw-women-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures.html

I loathe them already, but this has shocked me. The poor girl. How can they get away with this?

[Nancy66]

I know - it's 8 words stating an update. Where's the 'barely concealed glee?'

[LoveSardines]

The point the op is making, at the moment, is that some posters are dating how terrible one sorry of bullying is, speculating that this young man was bullied and that it is therefore understandable that he murdered a bunch of people, while saying nothing about the bullying behaviour of a paper towards this girl who as far as we know has done nothing wrong whatsoever, let alone committed multiple murder.

Op has an excellent point and it is being played out excellently by some posters.

[LoveSardines]

Phone spelling awful sorry.

[rootypig]

It's inferred from the rest of your posts

Thanks for the love, Love

[Nancy66]

its not inferred, it's assumed by you because I didn't agree with you.

[YetAnotherHelenMumsnet]

Hi all,
Rootypig has asked that this be moved to Feminism, and we are happy to oblige.

[rootypig]

Noooo, it's inferred from the style and content of your posts. Plenty of people here who don't agree with me.

But you're right, on reflection, your posts have been devoid of emotion glee

[rootypig]

Sorry - that sounds more insulting written down - it was a bit more playful in my head!

I am happy to disagree Nancy, but I find your brusque posting style difficult to engage with. Of course that is your prerogative, but that is the basis of my inference - which I am happy to accept is wrong.

Unlike my substantive reading of the PCC code of conduct

[Nancy66]

I've just been factual - anyhow happy to have been able to correct some of your many errors.

[rootypig]

Aha, see that's it, you're disingenuous. You are being critical, dismissive, and I would infer condescension, and yet will give nothing of yourself in terms of argument.

I don't think it's a fair way to go about business. Again, it's your prerogative, but it plays its part in the journey of the thread down the drain

[MmeLindor]

Read this in NYT and then tell me that he was just a poor, misunderstood boy who was bullied in school.

He mentions his first female friend - who was FIVE YEARS OLD -"My first friend in America had grown up to represent the type of people who have caused me so much pain in my life. She would eventually come to represent everything I hate."

These girls have done nothing wrong. They are in no way responsible for the actions of a boy they can barely remember.

[thecatfromjapan]

Hello again, rootypig.

I've complained. it may do no good ... but one day ....

Seriously, we live in a weird, weird world where a guy can kill - and tell us he's killed because he hates women - and the next day a newspaper can publish an article pretty much repeating killer's misogynistic blaming of a young woman.

How can we get to the state where you have to argue that this is not an OK thing to do?

I need a "head in hands" emoticon.

[rootypig]

Thanks for the link Mme, going to read it now. Immediately note the difference between the urls:

nypost.com.....the-woman-the-killer-blamed-his-misogyny-on/

//www.dailymail.co.uk....Meet-model-named-Santa-Barbara-killer-reason-saw-women-mean-cruel-heartless-creatures

[AnyFucker]

Was this 22 yo adult male bullied ? I understand he was denied sex with beautiful young girls. Is that what constitutes "bullying" in ManPleasing World ?

[rootypig]

Hi cat

I need a [bangs head off tiled wall] emoticon
Seems turkeys really do vote for Christmas

[Nancy66]

he claims he was bullied at school but his complaints as an adult mostly seem to be about beautiful women not wanting to have sex with him.

[MmeLindor]

As to feeling sorry for him - I feel sorry for the 6 people who were murdered.

I feel sorry for the young, troubled boy who was influenced by the poisonous culture of misogyny, and encouraged in his delusions of victimhood.

Not for the man who killed innocent people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[AnyFucker]

that's what I thought, nancy

so why are people whining about bullying on this thread ?

[Nancy66]

NYT have published his manifesto in its entirety for anyone who is interested

www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/05/25/us/shooting-document.html

[Nancy66]

Anyfucker - there was an earlier poster (now deleted) who posted about her own son being bullied by girls and the impact it had on him. Think that's what triggered other posts.

[rootypig]

Post is still there, at 17:13

[AskBasil]

I've e-mailed the PCC

[AnyFucker]

Yes, that is very sad. I presume that poster's son didn't go and murder 6 people ?

Irrelevant attempts to mitigate.

[rootypig]

One of the posts, I should say

[AskBasil]

Jesus some man-pleasers will bend over fucking backwards to excuse male violence and blame it on women and pretend that when national newspapers are OK when they're doing that too.

Pathetic.