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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Newnight report on brothels

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itshardthinkingofanickname · 20/02/2014 22:53

Worth £16 billion in Germany. Legal to "make it safer".

Interview with 22 yr old Hannah. 6 men per night, earns 100 to 1000 euros per night,

Talking about should it be illegal in the UK and the fact that brothels are safer than the streets. They have super brothels in Germany.

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FloraFox · 15/03/2014 00:04

If you're not a punter [we see you], what's your investment in this issue? What other social justice or political issues are you interested in?

FloraFox · 15/03/2014 00:04

I didn't miss it. It's a dumb question.

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:04

"This has been the case in countries which have adopted the Nordic model."

There is no evidence to support this. The best Sweden can tell us is street prostitution has reduced since 1999 (which also happens to be approx the time everyday people started getting the internet).

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:05

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SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/03/2014 00:05

Hands up who believes pepper is not a punter? Or a pimp?

Hands up who believes pepper is a feminist altruist who believes being fucked for money is a good thing for women? And only has their well-being at heart?

GarthsUncle · 15/03/2014 00:07

Ok, if you aren't a punter, under what circumstances would you be? What would lead you to fucking a woman (or man) who didn't want to fuck you?

migsy86 · 15/03/2014 00:08

One punter asked me if I enjoyed all this, I said 'yes of course' to which he replied, 'hmm not as much as me I bet'. I reckon a lot of them know we don't like it. They are having sex with us because they want a release and sexual gratification.

They cant possibly say 100% that the woman they have paid is over 18, not pimped out or being coerced. No prostitute worth her salt will turn round and say, 'you're the 8th I had today and I really want to go home and sit under the shower for an hour because all I can smell on me is men!'

Some will ask if you enjoy it but only a small percentage, some don't even talk to you!

And I've never had anyone stop, even when it was clear that something wasn't right. I'm sure there are some considerate ones out there but the ones I see tend to be middle aged and treat me like 'I've paid for x, y and z and you will do x, y and z'.

Gosh, sorry for the ramble.

WhentheRed · 15/03/2014 00:10

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GarthsUncle · 15/03/2014 00:10

Migsy Sad

SandorCleganeIsInnocent · 15/03/2014 00:10

Pepper...what circumstances would lead you to "consent" to rent your holes out for penetration by punters?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/03/2014 00:11

migsy, did you have a break? Everything OK?

SandorCleganeIsInnocent · 15/03/2014 00:12

Oh, Migsy Sad

RiaOverTheRainbow · 15/03/2014 00:13

Have you considered contacting Women's Aid Migsy? They can help.

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:13

Have cameras watching a prostitute with a client are you for real??

Perhaps CCTV could be stationed on the entrance to brothels and in the lobby (I don't know if legal brothels already do this)?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/03/2014 00:15

Why not cameras in the room? If it's just a job, a financial transaction...?

migsy86 · 15/03/2014 00:16

Yes I'm not there at the moment, I have to go back Sunday afternoon though. The time away has been good, I feel normal again now. x

And yes I would support cctv in legalised brothels. I'm sure you can imagine how unsafe many of us feel working on our own in a job that people don't know we're doing.

WhentheRed · 15/03/2014 00:18

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peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:18

"And yes I would support cctv in legalised brothels. "

Another user is wondering if CCTV should also watch over prostitutes have sex with clients in the bedrooms. What do you think of that?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 15/03/2014 00:20

pepper's good at barking out questions, not so good at answering.

migsy86 · 15/03/2014 00:21

peppercorn, why would you be so against cctv? It's when you're actually in the bedroom with punters that they become violent and aggressive.

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:23

@migsy, you mean you would be happy with CCTV in the bedroom?

What you think would make prostitutes safe is worth a lot more than what others think.

SandorCleganeIsInnocent · 15/03/2014 00:24

Do you wish to push it to the the fabled 'underground' pepper? Away from legislation and CCTV is underground AFAIAC.

And you ignored my other question...what would it take for you to consider renting your holes to others?

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:24

I can't answer loaded questions that make incorrect assumptions.

peppercornn · 15/03/2014 00:25

Actually I never said I was against CCTV.

GarthsUncle · 15/03/2014 00:26

You have a mouth, an anus and possibly a vagina. Where is the incorrect assumption?

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