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Newnight report on brothels

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itshardthinkingofanickname · 20/02/2014 22:53

Worth £16 billion in Germany. Legal to "make it safer".

Interview with 22 yr old Hannah. 6 men per night, earns 100 to 1000 euros per night,

Talking about should it be illegal in the UK and the fact that brothels are safer than the streets. They have super brothels in Germany.

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FloraFox · 14/03/2014 22:45

Never heard of her.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 22:45

I'm not making any accusations but I am suspicious of this Rachel Moran who suddenly made an appearance. And like Patricia Perquin, as of yet no real prostitute is able to say they have ever seen or heard of Rachel Moran.

Gaye Dalton (who is able to prove she was a prostitute) worked on the same street Rachel claims to have worked for years and never saw her once.

maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/played-out/

Is Rachel Moran telling the truth or is she another Patricia Perquin? We don't know, but if she is a fraud it won't be the first time.

*Gaye is on Twitter @mechanima

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 22:48

"Never heard of her."

Her real name is Valérie Lempereur who works as a (now disgraced) journalist.

This all took place in Amsterdam, but it's certainly interesting how practically everyone including politicians fell for it hook, line and sinker. It's understandable if they want to keep it quiet because of the embarrassment.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 22:54

I've never heard of her either.

There's a guest blog of a survivor of sex trafficking on a MN sticky at the moment. Very moving account.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 22:55

And it's not just Gaye who can't remember her. Noone from the time and location Rachel claims to have worked remembers her. And as has been pointed out the Dublin prostitute community is small and they all know and look out for each other.

from last link:
"I [Gaye Dalton] have asked several people…from that time and nobody else can remember her, or anyone like her, not only there but in any form of sex work indoor or outdoor, at any of the times she claims to have worked, between 1991 and 1998. "

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 22:56

"I've never heard of her either."

Well now you have. She claimed to be a survivor and claimed being forced into prostitution among other clams. But it was all a lie. It didn't happen.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 22:56

I believe Rachel Moran. I can see why people wouldn't want to, though. Those with a certain agenda.

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 22:58

I don't open links from first time posters who are more than likely pbu's. Sorry.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:01

Lots of people believed Patricia Perquin....

Do you have any comment to make on the fact noone, not even prostitutes who worked at the same location/vicinity at the same time, is able to remember Rachel Moran?

Surely someone must be able to vouch for her? Especially if the are part of a close-knit community who all know each other??

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:03

@SabrinaMulhollandJjones, do you believe Gaye Dalton?

WhentheRed · 14/03/2014 23:05

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peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:07

Now you can say you have heard of her.

There are holes in Rachel's story. But you have no comment to make on them?

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 23:08

I've never heard of Gaye Dalton either. I believe Rachel, and I believe you lobbyists try to smear her, and tell vile lies about her.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:08

"she exposes them for what they are"

If it turns out she wasn't a prostitute at all then how can she "expose" punters??

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:09

So Gaye Dalton is lying? And all the prostitutes Gaye asked are lying too?

Out of all these people the only one who isn't lying is Rachel Moran??

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 23:10

Even if what you say is correct, pepper, and it may be, who knows? it doesn't make all survivor stories lies. It doesn't make Rachel Moran a liar.

There was a story about about a child soldier who faked his story a while ago. Do you, on the strength of that, believe that no child soldiers exist?

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:10

Here is Gaye Dalton's Twitter. She is also a survivor of prostitution.

twitter.com/mechanima

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 23:11

Oh, I think we've reached the part where peppercornn spouts a load of bollox.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:12

Here is one of her recent tweets...

"#listentosurvivors but check they are real ones first"

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 23:15

I don't think I do believe Gaye Dalton, no. I think she may be a smear campaigner, trying to smear someone whose story doesn't 'fit' their agenda.

KerryKatonasKhakis · 14/03/2014 23:16

Couldn't give a shit about your links pepper.

My views were formed, my comments made and my evidence gathered before you discredited one (apparently fake) prostitute and insulted another (real) one.

I have never admitted it here but I was pimped at one vulnerable point in my life. Go the fuck ahead and discredit me!

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:17

Patricia Perquin was not a prostitute.

And Rachel is not as yet able to prove she was a real one, and others have pointed out holes in her story.

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:18

and there are ex-prostitutes who remember and can vouch for Gaye Dalton

SabrinaMulhollandJjones · 14/03/2014 23:19

Do you believe that posters like yourself tried to bully migsy off this thread by sending her horrible pm's, peppercornn? Was it you? One of your mates?

peppercornn · 14/03/2014 23:23

Still none of you have commented on the holes in Rachel's story and the fact no confirmed prostitute in the small close-knit prostitute community has ever seen or heard of her.